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Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« on: July 16, 2007, 08:24:00 AM »
The first one is a 223 and the second one is a 221 Fireball. They both have A & B barrels. Tried to make them accurate with out spending a whole lot of money. The 221 was cut down to 18" to save a little weight as it is my walk around gun right now. It weighs in at 8.5 pounds as seen. The 223 is about 11 pounds as seen. I have done all of the work myself  ;D


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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 01:06:41 PM »
All I can say is   --   OH  MY  GOD!!

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 02:52:27 PM »
Thank You very much.:D The "work" was a labor of love. Not bad for a "cheap" rifle. I got the SS fluted barrel for $100 + barrel wrench. Not so cheap now, but still cheaper than a premium rifle.  They both shoot better than they should. The 223 shoots under .5 MOA consistently, if I do my part. The 221 shoots at .5 MOA some times. I think I could get the 221 down a little more with a better trigger. It definitely needs more shooting to get broke in.

Here is a picture of a target I shoot last spring with the 223, they are 5 shot groups at 100 yards. The lower left one was shot with a different rifle. I stopped after shooting the .21". It is my best 5 shot group to date with any rifle I have owned. ;D



I loaned the 223 rifle to my brother in law. He said to check the zero, because he missed twice with it on woodchucks. I tried it at different power settings, you can see the result. These were three shot groups. I did better as the power was turned up.

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2007, 01:50:12 PM »
I love my Stevens 200, but yours makes it look pretty sick! And great shooters to boot. Keep up the great work, man. I'm not sure what you do for a living but you could probably get into the custom gun business.

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2007, 10:36:12 AM »

When you swapped out the barrel did you use the Savage 110 barrel as a replacement, or are there barrels listed for the Stevens 200 now?

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 01:48:13 PM »
How well does the 221Fireball feed? Considering changing out my Savage 112 in 223Rem to 300Whisper at some stage for a short range varminter and cast bullet shooter.
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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2007, 12:29:23 PM »
Thank You everyone ;D

When you swapped out the barrel did you use the Savage 110 barrel as a replacement, or are there barrels listed for the Stevens 200 now?

Yes, I used the Savage 110 barrel, they work just fine. Both rifles have them on. They were purchased through Midway. The 223 barrel was real rough and fouled up quickly. I can not tell you how much I polished that bore, but it was a lot. I would shoot about 20 rounds, clean, polish. I did that cycle many times. I kept it up until it was not copper fouling any more. Now it shoots great. There are other sources of barrels now too. Shilen, Sharp Shooters Supply, PAC-NOR are just a couple of places that make replacement barrels for Savages. The A&B barrels are about the cheapest, not the best.

How well does the 221Fireball feed? Considering changing out my Savage 112 in 223Rem to 300Whisper at some stage for a short range varminter and cast bullet shooter.
Cheers...

I had trouble with the Fire Ball to start with. I used a Sharp Shooters single feed ramp. It did not want to feed. The bullet would enter the chamber. but the neck would hang up on the lip of the chamber mouth. After I figured out what was happening, I took the barrel back off and put a small chamfer on the chamber mouth. Just enough that the neck would not hang. I did it with a 60 degree deburring tool by hand. It feeds real slick now. If you wanted to keep it as a magazine feed, you would have to try it, to see if there were any thing hanging up. If the feed angle is steeper than the feed ramp, then It may feed just fine.

All of the work is easy to do. ;) It is mostly a matter of swapping out parts. The top one was an unfinished stock from Boyds. You can buy the finished or unfinished. The bottom one is the 200 stock that was sanded down so there were no rough spots and no "parting lines". I pained it a two tone to start with, but did not like the look. It was a beige with the checkering painted black. I did not like that, so I painted it a semi-gloss black all over. I had to open the barrel channels on both stocks. I used Krylon Fussion paint for 200 stock. I bought stainless steel trigger guards and bolt handles from an outfit over in Ohio (Sharp Shooters Supply). I drilled out the mounting holes to 8X32 and tapped them. I bedded the recoil lug in with JB Weld in both stocks. I added Rifle Basix triggers to both of them. Really the only thing left stock was the receiver and bolt. Changing barrels is real easy. I caught a break on the 223 barrel. I bought it on clearance for $100 + a barrel wrench. I paid $130 for the 221 barrel, but had the wrench already. I polished both of the barrels. the 223 got a lot more polishing than the 221 (see above). After shooting them some the action has smoothed out. Not as slick as my Remington 700, but not bad. The Savage guns have got to be the easiest guns to work on there is; and they shoot good too. These are not super cheap rifles, but they are cheaper than a top of the line rifle and shoot just about as well. I want to get one of their new actions and build a rifle with it. If you have any more questions, I would be happy to share. I love to talk about my guns. BTW I am a Maintenance Supervisor and I would love to build rifles for a living. I do not know how much better it could get than that.

Like I said above, if anyone has any questions, please ask...I do like to talk about reloading and guns. ;D



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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2007, 12:43:09 PM »
supreme my friend!

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2007, 02:36:55 PM »
Beautiful! Very nice work! I have a Stevens 200 in .223 as well. You are giving me some inspiration to to trick mine out.

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2007, 03:20:21 PM »
Beautiful weapons, good work. Makes me take a second look at my Savage 22-250 in Laminate thumbhole.
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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2007, 11:31:37 PM »
fatNDN - I originally was going to get a thumb hole stock, but they were out and I was impatient so I got the target stock. The one I have turned out OK and it shoots very good off of the bench. You can purchase these in different laminates. I chose pepper, but the next one (if there is a next) will be nutmeg. It holds pretty steady in the standing position too.

SM Bob - The stock work on the 221 Fire Ball just takes a little time and a few bucks for sand paper and paint. It makes the stock real smooth and you can paint it any color you want, even camo. The stock feels like a quality plastic instead of cheap plastic stock. The trigger is worth every penny no matter if you do not do any thing else. I think bedding in the recoil lug helps too and does not cost much. From there the sky is the limit. The trigger guard and the bolt handle moves it away from the cheap gun look to one with a little class. Barrels can be purchased through a bunch of different sources now. Shilen, Pac-Nor, E.R. Shaw, Midway, Sharp Shooter Supply  just to name a few and there are varying levels of quality and of course prices. Good luck to you.
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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007, 02:23:35 AM »
Very nice, I have been thinking about getting a stevens 200 to rebarrel to either 17 fireball or 6mm br, now after seeing those groups i really want to!!!!!!!

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2007, 04:21:32 AM »
Inrut24/7 - As you may know or not the Stevens 200 is the exact same action as a Savage. The main difference is the finish. It looks to me that they just machine out the receiver, knock any burrs that might be there off and blue it. While the better Savage rifles are polished before bluing. You can buy barrels from a bunch of places now. The quality of the barrels runs from a little better than factory to bench rest quality. Shilen, Pac-Nor, E.R Shaw, Midway, and Sharp Shooter Supply are some places that sell chambered Savage barrels. Of course when ever you buy a barrel; it is sort of a crap shoot as to how well they will perform. With the better known names you have a better chance of getting a "shooter". MidWay is a little limited on selection and barrel contours. I do not believe they have the cartridges you are looking for. If you are going to re-barrel a Stevens 200, I would suggest getting a quality, flat ground recoil lug to replace the factory one. The factory recoil lug is stamped out and is not very "flat". The ones I had, you could see where the receiver was touching in places and not in others. The trigger is a problem too. I really did not like the factory trigger. I might have been able to stone it and get it better, but if you over do it then you have to buy another trigger any way. I bought a Rifle Basix trigger (it is fully adjustable within it's range) and installed it. I did this to both of my 200's. I really think it makes a difference. I did some other things like, replaced the trigger guard with a stainless steel one and the bolt handle with the longer, larger stainless steel one too. Those are just nice touches that are not needed. Of course if you get a more modern Savage, you get an Accu-Trigger. I have no experience with those, they maybe fine. I would really like to get my hands on one of their new receivers that is the new single shot style that Savage uses for their high end varmint and tactical guns. It comes with an Accu-Trigger that is adjustable down to 12 ounces or something like that. They are not cheap - some where in the $400 - $500 range. I have not found a place that sells them yet. If you figure in the price of a new Stevens and strip out and replace all of the stuff I did and replace it; it is not that much more expensive. I have found that working on the Savage type rifles to be very easy and I really like it. I have accumulated all of the tools I need to change out a barrel and head space in a matter of 30 minutes or so. As I am sure you know the 17 FireBall (17 Mach IV) and the 6mmBR have different head sizes. With a Stevens/Savage action you can change out the head and poof you changed case size. So you could have one action and change out heads and barrels and shoot both of them. Sharp Shooters Supply will even machine out a head to fit the PPC cartridge. They are a great source of Savage stuff. Good luck to you and happy shooting. ;D
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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2007, 02:22:50 AM »
Very nice!!And great shooting you and the rifles!!I like that laminate stock looks great.
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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2007, 10:32:19 AM »
 I  had my Stevens 200 7-08 barrel cut to 18 1/2", group size shrunk from 1 1/2" to 1/2".  I like it a lot better now, really handy.........

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Re: Pictures of my Modified Stevens 200
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2007, 11:55:40 AM »
My main purpose for cutting the barrel down was to save weight. In some cases the shorter barrel does increase the accuracy. You could have had a bad crown on the barrel before cutting it down. There are some that really like a shorter barrel and I have found that it has never hurt accuracy. There are some that would never cut one back, because they loose a 100 - 150 fps and they can not stand the thought. I have always thought accuracy and handiness were more important. Too each their own, that is why they sell so many different guns and in such a wide variety of cartridges. You could start up a discussion about what is the ideal barrel length for such and such cartridge or about the best cartridge for so and so application and you will get a great debate on what is best. Some folks will get down right hostile about their choice. Everyone has the right to do what he thinks is best. Diversity is a great thing, but my choice is always best  ::) ;D ;D ;D;D
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