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Offline bcp

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410 dies?
« on: August 13, 2007, 05:12:35 AM »
Why doesn't someone make standard 7/8-14 reloading dies for the 410?

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Re: 410 dies?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 05:33:57 AM »
Perhaps because a centerfire loading press is a very poor excuse for a shotshell loader?


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Re: 410 dies?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 06:45:40 AM »
With all due respect to any and all naysayers, if a reloader is  utilizing the brass 410 casings, a standard handloading press given the correct dies is, I think, a good idea.  It's certainly would be everybit as efficient as the old "one at a time" Lee Loader that so many of us used to good advantage for our 12 gauge squirrel loads.  There are many specialty 410 loads that could be so loaded with good efficiency from a logistical point of view.  Now with plastic hulls and mass production of shot loads it's an entirely different story.
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Re: 410 dies?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2007, 10:12:28 AM »
Perhaps because a centerfire loading press is a very poor excuse for a shotshell loader?

I have to somewhat disagree with this statement. I use the RCBS 12 ga loading die set in my RCBS R.C. press with very good results. It is great for special loading such as turkey loads and slugs but would not be a good choice for a volume loader.

I did ask RCBS if  they could make me a stet of 410 does like the old 12 and 20 ga dies they told me that "it could not be done because of tooling"

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Re: 410 dies?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 10:53:13 AM »
I will grant you that in regard brass cases. When I think of loading shotshells I DO NOT think of brass cases. I load many many thousands of shotshells per year to support my skeet shooting habit and loading them on any single stage centerfire press I'd never get enough loaded between trips to the range to support the shooting I was to next do.

In the last 3 weeks I've loaded about 2000 rounds give or take a bit most .410s but also 28s which is what I'm currently working on. Beore starting the .410s I'd loaded over 1000 rounds of 28 gauge.

I can accept that for some very limited volume specialty loads it might work but then so will a proper shotshell loader. Now for brass cased shells if that is what you for some reason want to load I reckon maybe it could be better but I never even think of them when I think of shotshells and my answer had nothing to do with brass cases.


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Re: 410 dies?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2007, 07:32:09 PM »
A Lee Loader would make me happy, if they weren't rare and nearly as expensive as a Mec 600! 

Dies for a new rifle cartridge cost $15-$30, but if I want to reload 410's, a Mec 600 from Midway is $123.99.

Then I read stories like this:
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,98988.0.html

Would you like a rifle reloading press for over $100 that could load only one caliber, and then only one brand of brass?