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Offline jjvw

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« on: December 16, 2010, 04:26:42 AM »
In my 40+ years of reloading, I have use only published loads.
I have some 250 gr JSPs in 41 caliber that I want to use in my 414 encore. All I can find are lead loads and not in powders I use.
I have H110 and LIL Gun. What is the best way to come up with a load? Max loads for 210 is 27 gr H110
I am thinking 25 gr H110 should be about right?
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Re: 414
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 06:34:24 AM »
   What is a 414 Encore ?
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Re: 414
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 09:40:34 AM »
Never heard of a 414, but you cannot use cast data for jacketed bullets, your presure will be way to high. Jacketed bullets are harder to push down the barrel and presure is higher. I would think you load would be way to hot.
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Re: 414
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 03:29:08 PM »
Sorry, its a TC Encore chambered for 414 super mag.
I am trying to come up with a load for Uncle Joe's 250 gr JSP.
Reloading manuals only list 170 to 220 gr jacket bullets in either 41 mag or 414 SM.
Max load for the 414 is 27 gr H110 with a 220 gr JHC and 25gr for a cast 255.
I am thinking around 25 gr H110 for the 250 JSP.
I know I can't use lead data, thats why I'm asking for advice.
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Re: 414
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 02:34:00 PM »
http://www.lasc.us/RangingShotDW414SM.htm  good info at this site..used to own a 16" carbine barrel for my Contender so chambered but the front lug for the forearm kept pulling out..
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Re: 414
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 01:57:47 AM »
  I would try calling some of the powder companies and talk to there ballistic tech people, they may be helpful.
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Re: 414
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 06:35:52 AM »
As it was a Dan wesson cartridge for sillywet, I would try some silhouette forums and/or the DW forum. And I believe there is a couple of .414 shooters here but I am unsure where they usually hang out at.

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Re: 414
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 03:09:05 PM »
http://www.lasc.us/RangingShotDW414SM.htm Tried that, no big jacketed loads. I read all the old posts from every forum. no 265 jacketed loads.
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Re: 414
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 09:58:27 AM »
I would call or e-mail Johan at Ramshot powders and tell him your needs..He has never failed me.
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