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Offline benderboy77

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"first" handi 444 marlin
« on: September 12, 2007, 10:49:08 AM »
hello.

Just got home with my first handi rifle, a realtree camo 444 marlin i will be using during the mississippi primitive weopon season.  What do the kick or felt recoil feel like on this rife?

I got a 12 gauage topper model 58 that been sitting in my closet for the last 10 years that my grandpa gave me that i have never shot for the fear of recoil.

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2007, 10:56:08 AM »
Welcome aboard!! How about a pic?  ;) 444 recoil isn't bad, about the same as a 45-70 trapdoor load, a bit more than a 30-06, but you can tame it a bit with a Limbsaver pad if it bothers you, I haven't used one for mine, but it has a camo laminate stock on it, weighs a bit more than their other stocks. Shoots very well with several loads, 240gr XTP, 265gr Hornady and 355gr Beartooth.  :)

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2007, 10:58:42 AM »
I have a Topper Model 58 12ga and with 3" slugs it does kick.  I put a recoil pad on and it helps.  Shooting shotshells isn't bad.  You can add weight to the butt stock by filling the bolt hole with a metal rod or lead shot.  That will also help tame the recoil.  I don't have a .444 Marlin but the same could be done to reduce the recoil.

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2007, 11:08:34 AM »
If you have trouble tolerating a 12 ga then you will definitely want a good recoil pad. If the only trouble was with the topper, then your not a alone. I remember getting beat up pretty good as a 13 year old with the one that was my first gun.
  I don't have the 444 in a handi, but my 444 marlin loves the Beartooth 280 gr on top of 53 gr of RL-7. It isn't a max load, but it will shoot 1 1/4 inch groups all day( or as long as my shoulder lasts).

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 11:24:02 AM »
I am not shy of 12 ga recoil, i own 2 other 12 guages. that gun is just so darn light. ;D

My camera phone is acting up can't take a pic but here is a link to camo 4570s on another forum i frequent. Mine look like these just the hole on the end is smaller.:o

http://www.mdwfp.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35578

http://www.mdwfp.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35250 

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 12:51:48 PM »
what size limbsaver's pad do i need to fit my 444?

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 12:55:14 PM »
Looks like my 243 Superlight!! H&R also offers wood stocks that are nicer looking IMO. You're on your own on the limbsaver for synthetic stock, I haven't tried fitting one yet. Seems to me Country Boy did one on his 45-70, I'll see if I can find it.

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 01:20:45 PM »
what camo scope is that in the first pic? quailty? price?

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 01:54:10 PM »
That's a Redhead muzzleloader scope sold by Basspro, I wouldn't recommend it for any firearm with any recoil, the eye relief is very short and critical, works fine on the 243 tho. If you want a camo scope that would work good on the 444, get a Nikon Prostaff 2-7x32 Shotgun scope, I have one on my 500S&W Handi, works fine. Jon at TOZ has em with free shipping. ;)

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 04:38:22 PM »
benderboy,
I thought that only the 45/70 was legal in Ms. for ML season by dint of the cartridge being developed prior to a certain date.The .444 is not an old cartridge.Best check legality before you venture out.I hope I am wrong on this.

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Re: "first" handi 444 marlin
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 04:49:23 PM »
It's not just the cartridge that determines legality, it's the rifle and caliber, any H&R 38-55 and bigger is legal for the MS primitive season. ;)

Tim

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