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Offline demented

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I don't understand about 1911's magazine issues.
« on: September 11, 2007, 03:16:37 AM »
 Person A swears his brand X 1911 is 100% reliable when using a particular brand magazine.  The next guy says his 1911 will not work at all with that same magazine.  Sometimes 1911's won't work with factory supplied magazines. I own or have owned Browning Hi-Powers, Glocks, Smiths in various calibers, just to name a few. ALL are reliable with the magazines they are issued with, why is there so much confusion with selecting 1911 magazines?  I've yet to see a SIG or even a Smith and Wesson .45 that didn't work with the magazines that are factory supplied, I wonder why the 1911 is so much harder to deal with?

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Re: I don't understand about 1911's magazine issues.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 04:28:45 AM »
I think it's because there are so many slightly different variations in design interpretation among the many manufacturers. Also, because the 1911 is so popular in so many different price points and configurations, there is a lot of cheap junk out there. Just as there is a lot of really excellent product available.
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Re: I don't understand about 1911's magazine issues.
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2007, 01:22:56 AM »
I've not actually "seen" anyone's 1911 have any issues with their factory mag.

As far as third party magizines are concerned, I believe there is a "useful life" to them. Two years ago I bot 3 Chip McCormick 10 round mag's and shot them for 2 summers. At the beginning of the third year, they would not feed my first round properly into the chamber. I could load 9 into the magizine and they would work fine, but if I put that 10th one in, it would jam that first round half-way in. And all three clips would do this. Now, at first I thought it was my Springer, but I tried 'em on my Colt and got the same result. So, I knew it wasn't the gun.

After much fooling around with 10 rounds that I just put a bullet into an empty case (no primer or powder), I finally determined that when I fed that last bullet into the mag, the feed lips on the mag would spread to an "unacceptable" width. This was because when I put that 10th round in the mag, it compressed the spring enough to put just enough pressure on the stack to spread those feed lips. I compared this to the new Wilson Combat mags I bot and to the factory colt mag. I'm no metallurgist but I figured metal fatigue just caused 'em to fail.

Anyway, 3 new Wilson Combat's (yeah.....$90 later) and my 1911's were off and hummin away! ;D

I still can't break 15 seconds at the action shoot.....but I have a lot of fun tryin! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I don't understand about 1911's magazine issues.
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2007, 05:02:07 AM »
in defense of the Colt 1911 or style pistol, there maybe many more after markets parts available for it then any other you mentioned, some good some not so good, the reliability of the 1911 depends on how well you affix these parts ... after market drop-in parts sometimes just don't drop in, you need to know how an what makes it function

i'd say the first problem you'll run into is the ammo itself especially if its reloads, second is the magazine,  to understand that three thing go along with its function , the magazine release controls the way it locks-up,, the height into the frame ,, where the bullet sits in relation to the barrel is only part of a possible non-working one.. 

to go on further... the slide release controls the follower in the mag' at last shot position holds the slide open, set either the follow or the slide release wrong an it won't work properly, then the barrel excepting the bullet over its ramp is also important [] or the way the ramp is cut  either on the frame or the barrel [ meaning after market parts or other then original Colt]... anyone of or all of these modifications will cause problems feeding

so even lightly customizing an adding after market stuff like extended mag. buttons, slide release, barrel changes an the magazine itself, any very small minimal change in design of the product can cause problems, not to mention the 47 other parts available, changing beavertails, springs an grip safetys, even adding a rib'd site, the extra weight on the slide changes how it will fed an eject,  once on the frame, if it doesn't work an you don't know how to make it work, you'll hear about 'a l l '   the complaints on which product sucks or won't work on my gun.. not say there aren't bad products out there... sometimes cheap ain't the way to go

just a bunch of thought here an my 2cents....

Person A swears his brand X 1911 is 100% reliable when using a particular brand magazine.  The next guy says his 1911 will not work at all with that same magazine.  Sometimes 1911's won't work with factory supplied magazines. I own or have owned Browning Hi-Powers, Glocks, Smiths in various calibers, just to name a few. ALL are reliable with the magazines they are issued with, why is there so much confusion with selecting 1911 magazines?  I've yet to see a SIG or even a Smith and Wesson .45 that didn't work with the magazines that are factory supplied, I wonder why the 1911 is so much harder to deal with?
God must love stupid people... He made so many.

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