I got out again yesterday. I had my compact stock on and everything tightened down. I shot a variety of bullets from 200 grain to 300 grain. I used shockey gold pyrodex select pyrodex rs and goex black powder. I started with 70 grain loads and worked my way up to 110 in 5 grain increments. I was not really pleased with any of them. The best I got was 3 and a half inch groups at 75 yards with 300 grain xtps and 85 grains of pyrodex select. Acceptable for hunting, but not acceptable to me. Muzzleloading season starts here in 3 weeks, and I think I will pull out my hawken. Next summer I will work hard to improve on this, but I am wondering if there is any improvement. With the compact stock, the gun felt barrel heavy with the 29 inch barrel. I went to the cva sight to see about purchasing a 24 inch one and the do not list it in the barrels. I will drop Tom an email to see if it is available. I swabbed after every shot and spent about 5 hours at the range working on this. I shot my 270 with hand loads of IMR 4350 at 53.2 grains and 130 grain sierra game king bullets. I was overly pleased with this and am ready for the whitetails. It also felt batter with the shorter barrel as far as balance.