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Offline oldrookie

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hornady xtp
« on: March 29, 2007, 05:31:42 PM »
Ok boys, have the optima scoped and ready for range time. I want to spend my time dialing in on my hunting load for the fall. I have several dozen powerbelts 295g to start with. I want to also try the xtp which I believe is around 300g. Anybody shoot .45 xtp out of their 50 caliber? If so, do you use the green or black sabot? I have heard elsewhere its important to have a snug fit and not sure which sabot fits better with .50.

Again, reading elsewhere, it appears the powerbelt performs best at medium weights and reduced speeds. Going to start with 80-90g of triple seven and around 300g projectile and that should keep in the 12-1300fps range. Those of you who have charts and what not is that about right? Long range shooting for me in Indiana for whitetails is around 100 yards. I dont want those powerbelts falling apart upon impact.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 07:26:34 PM »


I don't think the power belts will fall apart no matter how fast you push them :D :D :D :D :D I don't have any charts for your loads..Most if not all of my shooting is way out beyond 100 yards..

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 05:21:53 AM »
I started working a load for my CVA Kodiak Pro-Mag and found the Power Belt Platinum 270 grain is very accurate with 100 grains of loose RS Pyrodex Powder. But the Platinum bullets are expensive. I have used the XTP bullets with mixed results. They are accurate but the performance is not the best when I have used them on large mule deer. I have had friends use them and they really like the XTP bullet. Shot placement is everthing in this world....

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 07:45:45 AM »
I started working a load for my CVA Kodiak Pro-Mag and found the Power Belt Platinum 270 grain is very accurate with 100 grains of loose RS Pyrodex Powder. But the Platinum bullets are expensive. I have used the XTP bullets with mixed results. They are accurate but the performance is not the best when I have used them on large mule deer. I have had friends use them and they really like the XTP bullet. Shot placement is everthing in this world....

Ya, I am planning on seeing what the "cheepo" power belts can do and then move to the platinums right before the season starts. With regards to the xtp, do you know if they were using the black or green sabot with the .50? One is slightly thicker and all else fails, I will call MMP.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 08:22:10 AM »
oldrookie, I have only used the black sabots with the XTP's. Like I say they are very accurate.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 09:44:34 AM »
You know where i stand on powerbelts and the thing about keeping the chrarges low is a bunch of horse crap. I like to start out with 70 grains powder when starting out with new bullets and work my charges up. You also know where i shoot the deer with powerbelts, smack dab in the ribs to take out both lungs and drop them in their tracks. When you switch to the platinums, make sure you take a few shots to make sure they shoot the same as the cheap powerbelts.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 11:27:40 AM »
Oldrookie-
The green sabots, if I am not mistaken, are for using .44 Cal (.429) bullets in your .50 Cal.  As far as the XTPs I have shot, but never hunted with,  .45 cal 240 grain XTPs in my Omega and they were very accurate.  You can also buy the lead XTP Cheap Shots of the same dimensions for practice and switch right over to the more expensive XTPs and be right on target.  I did a lot of inquiring on this subject last season while trying to decide whether to use the XTPs or the T/C Shockwaves.  I opted for the 300 grain Shockwaves but they both are very accurate.  I took a doe this past year with the Shockwave and was so impressed, I probably will never use anything else.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 02:38:34 PM »
Oldrookie-
The green sabots, if I am not mistaken, are for using .44 Cal (.429) bullets in your .50 Cal.  As far as the XTPs I have shot, but never hunted with,  .45 cal 240 grain XTPs in my Omega and they were very accurate.  You can also buy the lead XTP Cheap Shots of the same dimensions for practice and switch right over to the more expensive XTPs and be right on target.  I did a lot of inquiring on this subject last season while trying to decide whether to use the XTPs or the T/C Shockwaves.  I opted for the 300 grain Shockwaves but they both are very accurate.  I took a doe this past year with the Shockwave and was so impressed, I probably will never use anything else.

Thanks Cherokee.....I'll put the shockwave on the short list. Dang, my short list is getting longer...lol

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 05:34:06 AM »
My XTP formula

90 grain FFFG T7
MMP Sabot (black 45/50)
.452 300 gr XTP
PR Bullet Variflame adapter.

Chrono'd @ 1798 fps thru a 24" pipe.


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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2007, 08:22:20 AM »
The XTP really expands at the faster MZ velocities. I have shot a few Deer with the 250's (ribcage) with dramatic results. I would rather use the 300's if Black Bear or Hogs are possible, but both will work with care with those added rolls. I used the 300's a couple of times on Deer & they expanded, but not as dramatic.

I now prefer the Shockwave for bal. efficiency. I will try the Barnes TMZ soon & I hope I can get some results like Mac did, we will see. I will have my OE soon.
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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2007, 04:41:08 PM »
Old Rookie, the green sabots are for the .44 cal bullets and the black are for the .45. I shoot 300gr xtps out of my Black Diamond with 100gr of t7 2f. I have both of the 300gr bullets 44 cal and 45 cal. both shoot 1'' groups for me at 100yds. I shoot 295gr power belts out of my thunderhawk with 100gr of pyro select with the same accuracy.

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 12:13:23 PM »
Since 2000 i have killed about a dozen deer and scores of hogs using the .44 caliber, 240 grain XTP.   The gun used is my cheap old CVA Staghorn.   All of the deer and the vast majority of the hogs were bang flops.   Not one animal ever went over 40 yards after being hit and no wounded animal has gotten away.   The .44 caliber XTP is a good bullet that works for me and i am too old to change.

 

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Re: hornady xtp
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2007, 04:40:38 AM »
just sighted in my Optima yesterday with 300 grain XTP's 100 grain loose 777.  2.25" 3 shot group at 100. 

I have killed 3 deer with 240 grain Xtp's out of my 44 with impressive results.  Looking forward to seeing how these work out.
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