Author Topic: Hi point 45ACP (Read 1596 times)

jmckinley · « **on:** September 10, 2007, 03:06:22 AM »

I just picked up a package deal for the High Point 45 with laser for $ 200.00. Has anyone used ine of these pistols and if so how did it function and with what ammo? I have heard they are tough as nails and don't seem to jam much. Thanks, Jess

John R. · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2007, 05:27:39 AM »

Not trying to be negative, but High Points are an absolute piece of junk. They break firing pins on a regular basis and are not very reliable. Think about it: 45 ACP plus laser for $200.00 bucks. You get what you pay for!!!

jmckinley · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2007, 06:19:32 AM »

I understand your comments about this gun but everyone I know who has one love em. I put 150 rounds throgh mine on Saturday 230FMJ and 185grJHP with zero jams and all with very good groups. my groups ran around 3 inches for 7 9 shot groups at 15 yards. It is is minute of fool who tries to break into my house. I own a Kimber Ultra carry and love it. Don't knock the gun if you haven't tried one forthe money u pull the trugger it goes bang and cycles another and another and goes bang everytime I pull the trigger. Sounds like a good buy to me. Jess

John R. · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2007, 09:31:50 AM »

Hopefully it will still do that after 1000 rounds. I stand by my comments, as I've seen to many come in the gun shop with broken firing pins. I have shot one before and the trigger pull had to be 12 lbs. If you have a Kimber you would be much better off using it for home defense than the Hi-Point. They are cheap made guns, which is why they only cost $200.00 with the laser!!! Your Kimber is a much higher quality pistol.

jmckinley · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2007, 10:02:28 AM »

John you point is well taken my Kimber cost 5 times as much. I figured for $ 200 bucks I'd use it for knock around gun and not drag my Kimber thru the mud. So far so good. It could be an anchor for my Jon boat. So far any way it worked and I enjoyed blowing u some ammo.

Jess

John R. · « **Reply #5 on:** September 12, 2007, 06:24:08 AM »

Well, i have to admit it's all about having fun. (whatever you're shooting)

a45gunslinger · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2007, 06:18:17 PM »

HMM.. I'll give ya $175.00 for the laser

Sorry

I've fired a hi-point in .45 but I just couldn't get used to it after shooting 1911's I seem to remember it being very top heavy...but it didn't have any malfunctions after 150 rnds. - kevin

T-Rex · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2007, 11:27:05 AM »

Personally, I love the High Points for what they are intended.

They are cheap, bulky, heavy, and hard to disassemble for cleaning. They are way to big and ugly to carry, and would wear a guy out on the gun range. Still they are great to stash around the house for personal protection. Mine, have all been perfectly reliable, and from what I have heard, those that do have problems, get taken care of by the manufacturer.

But what they ain't is a 1911. and have no place on a 1911 forum, if you ask me.

T-Rex · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2007, 11:31:41 AM »

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Not trying to be negative, but High Points are an absolute piece of junk

You really have to explain to me how that isn't negative.

hardertr · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2007, 11:57:22 AM »

I have a HP 45 and like it. It's kinda like that girl you want to hang around with, but never really want to parade in public. It is ugly, top heavy, akward feeling in the hand, and big.... but mine shoots fine. I would probably like it MORE if HP would make a carbine in 45.

Like some of the other guys say, over a 1000 rounds...and not a single problem yet.

John R. · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:31:13 AM »

Well it might have been a tad bit negative, but then again we're talking about a High Point. Like I said you get what you pay for. Also, I agree that this should not be on the 1911 forum, possibly the cheap gun forum. (Hi-Point, RG, Llama, Jennings, etc.)

Questor · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2007, 05:06:42 AM »

There are two camps: those who only use good guns, and those who will use relatively poor guns for some purposes. Both camps seem to have fun with what they use.

John R. · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:17:10 AM »

I was discussing this topic with my gunsmith buddy and he said if you had to buy a Hi-Point you needed to buy two of them, one to crap on and the other one to cover it up with.

T-Rex · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:38:32 AM »

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if you had to buy a Hi-Point you needed to buy two of them

There's a statement I agree with, but for a much different, down to earth reason.
They are affordable. At their cost, you can afford to stash them all over your house, car, whatever. Just remember to be safe, and keep them out of the hands of kids, and the BG. I have fired a minimum of 500 failure free rounds from all of my High Points, before putting them into service. I doubt these things would last anywhere near as long as a good 1911, but then you wouldn't ask as much from it. To restate what I have already said, there is a place for these things, and if you understand their limitations, they are a really good value in my book.

Questor · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:08:55 AM »

It's interesting to read the different criteria around what we value in our guns. For me, 500 rounds is about how long it takes me to get used to a new handgun. 1,000 is just a month or so after that. I wonder if the message in this thread is that the high points are not durable enough for guys like me who expect to do a lot of shooting. Is that where the negative opinions were formed?

I know the lore of handguns often categorizes them by number of rounds they can be expected to last. For example, "It was never intended for that kind of service, it's a 2000 round gun", meaning that the expected service life is 2000 rounds and after 2000 rounds you could expect the gun to fail.

How many rounds is the High Point?

Questor · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:15:49 AM »

I hadn't seen these guns, so just looked them up. How do they get it to work as a blowback gun for 45acp? I thought they'd need some kind of locking mechanism. Is it that they are using a very heavy slide?

John R. · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:57:39 AM »

Questor, the slide by itself must weigh about 3 lbs. These things are so top heavy it's unbelievable. That's why they make such good trotline weights

Questor · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2007, 09:00:06 AM »

Interesting! Well, it's nice to learn something new every day. I guess that's how they can make them so cheaply.

T-Rex · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:27:21 AM »

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the message in this thread is that the high points are not durable enough for guys like me who expect to do a lot of shooting

Yup! At least in my opinion.

If you want to do a lot of shooting, use your Kimber, Colt, or Springfield Armory. That is what I do.

After my High Points get christened, they stay at home on guard duty.

pills · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:19:32 PM »

How many of you have guns that have lifetime warranties to the bazillionth owner? I do in my hi point.

How many of you have actually shot a hi point? I have and it works flawlessly.

Hopefully the admins wont mind but if you have questions regarding your hi point visit http://hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php

The old site crashed was hosted on free forums and crashed so they are starting over. After about 4 days there are over 275 users who do not think they are junk.

Questor · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2007, 04:31:33 AM »

Pills:

I'm with you. I'm rather enthusiastic about the Hi-Point because it allows someone who just wants to try a 45 and doesn't have a large budget to use it. I looked it up and found that they weigh the same as a 1911, but by accounts from this board are relatively top heavy.

John R. · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2007, 03:49:39 AM »

My brother just picked up a like new XD45 for $400.00 (new ones only run $535.00). That's a heck of a deal for 13+1 in 45 ACP. I would much rather spend the extra $200 and have something worth owning than waste $200 on a Hi-Point. If you look around you can find a good deal on a used auto pistol (XD's, Glock, S&W, etc.) that will last you a lifetime. In the meantime have fun shooting whatever you own.

Questor · « **Reply #22 on:** October 23, 2007, 04:25:02 AM »

John R:

That's been my approach, but some guys find $400 too much. Particularly young people or people with lots of kids. I'm glad we have the option of getting the lower cost guns if we need them.

jmckinley · « **Reply #23 on:** October 28, 2007, 06:54:03 PM »

Tell you what I love all the opinions and frankly it gets real old how people bash another persons choice's. If u don't like the Hi Point spend your money on a plastic cap gun. It's wasn't your nickle was it. i have put 550 rounds through my 45 and have had zero misfeeds. My 2 1911's are 1930's versions and love them. My Kimber Ultra Carry is best built gun I own, but the Hi point is tool and i know it's limitations. I have it for home defense and to carry when i am in the field to diswade critters with teeth that bite and for that purpose it does the job. Jess

John R. · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2007, 02:39:31 AM »

OK Jess, you're right, it's your nickle. Enjoy your Hi-Point and have fun.

BigGuy · « **Reply #25 on:** November 17, 2007, 02:12:48 PM »

The only negative I've heard about the HiPoints (other than the ergonomics) is that if you dry fire them you'll break a firing pin by the second or third pull. There was an article a while back in one of the gun magazines that gave them a great review. For the money, they and the KelTecs are probably the best thing going. Most of the folks that knock HiPoints or Keltecs have never seen or used one. They prefer to rely on the word of their "expert" friends.

m1aman · « **Reply #26 on:** November 17, 2007, 03:11:40 PM »

friend of mine had a highpoint rifle in 9mm and said it was accurate and reliable.