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Offline Echo4Lima

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1851 Navy 5" barrel
« on: October 26, 2007, 08:18:15 PM »
I have a 7" .36 Navy Uberti that I'm very happy with. I have been considering an 1849 Pocket .31 to go along with it.  I came across a Uberti Navy .36 with a 5" barrel,   Interesting. 

2 Navy's.  5" for the shoulder, 7" for the hip. Or should I stick with my original plan with the '49 pocket?  Big difference in sizes, even with the 5" barrel.

Anybody know about these?  Where should I look for one?

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 12:24:16 AM »
Let's throw some more beans in the pot.

If you like the size of the 49 pocket revolver, Colt (and now some of the Italians) made a 36 caliber variant of the 49.  It carried 5 shots and was built on the 49 frame.  Uberti makes a fairly good copy, they call it the 1862.  It can be had with either an octagon or round barrel, just like Colt made them. 

Some other company makes an 1862 with 6 holes in the cylinder, on the 1851 frame.  Yeah, a short barreled 1851 or 1861.

So now you can find a pocket revolver for your shoulder holster in navy caliber to match your belt gun.

Most of the mail order or online stores can get either one.

Why not just a second belt gun?
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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 07:07:54 PM »
Uberti Colt 1862 Police: .36 cal, 5 shot percussion cylinder, 5 1/2" barrel:


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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 01:24:09 AM »
Here's another one, 6 1/12 barrel

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 02:16:35 AM »
I should mention a possible problem with the small frame Colts - shedding fired caps. The small frame Colts have smaller cylinder/frame clearances than the large frame guns, and the channel in the frame that is supposed to allow fired caps to fall away is either missing entirely or woefully insufficient. The result is a chronic tendency for either the entire cap or pieces of it to get stuck between the cylinder and the frame, jamming the cylinder. This can and does happen with all bp revolvers at times, but the small frame Colts are especially prone due to the tighter clearances; even the 'gunfighter flip' maneuver is less effective at avoiding the problem.

There are fixes, ranging from using a Dremel to deepen the frame channels to stronger mainsprings and aftermarket nipples. The frame modifications appear to be the most effective.

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 07:52:46 PM »
StrawHat, you over flowed the pot!  But Thanks!! I remember seeing that 1862 Police advertised. I think I like that a lot.  Would like it with the octagon barrel.   Nice to have the same caliber. Only have to do different powder charge. I think this makes my decision for me.  A nice "brace" of pistols for me...

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2007, 05:27:49 AM »
The "OTHER" .36 cal small frame pocket pistol is called The Pocket NAVY.  It has the older style octagon barrel.

Modified my post 29 Oct 07.

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2007, 03:58:06 PM »
The .36 cal small frame pocket pistol is called The Pocket NAVY.  It has the older style octagon barrel.

Well, almost.

The Colt 1862 Pocket Police is a .36 cal small frame 5 shot revolver with a round barrel in either 5 1/2" or 6 1/2" length:
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/BlkPowder/CA071-070-62PockPolice.htm#

The Colt 1862 Pocket Navy is a .36 cal small frame 5 shot revolver with an octagon barrel in either 5 1/2" or 6 1/2" length:
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/BlkPowder/CA076-075-PockNavy.htm

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2007, 07:27:47 PM »
Egg ZAK ly!

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2007, 07:19:07 PM »
I have a relative that works for a local gun shop.  He's found me the 1862 Pocket Police from Uberti for $225.00. Soon's the holidays are over I'll have him order it for me. Been busy so hadnt had time to do the shopping.  I think I,m REALLY gonna enjoy that pistol.  Getting the round barreled one since a true 1862 would have been round.

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Re: 1851 Navy 5" barrel
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 04:06:55 AM »
As I recall, the 1862 Colt was offered in two variations.

The Pocket Navy with the octagon barrel based on the 1851 Navy design, and the Pocket Police with the barrel and lever based on the 1860 Army design.

So both are correct.

I have both and prefer the Pocket Police.  But then I also prefer the 1861 Navy to the 1851 Navy.

You have made a good choice with the Pocket Police.  I have found it to be a hoot to shoot as it is the only 36 I've handled that actually has any felt recoil.

Pocket Police



Pocket Navy



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