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Offline nomadichuntergatherer

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Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« on: December 15, 2007, 09:33:24 PM »
Hi.  I'm new here, and I thought I'd introduce myself with a question that showcases my ignorance.

I just got my buffalo classic back from the factory.  I sent it there because, even with the factory sights dialed all the way up, it hit low at just 100 yards.  I called 'em up and they said sent it in and I did, and they sent it back with no explanation, just a snapshot of a three round group labeled 100 yards Remington 300 grain.  This group was still low.  After a little more experimentation this morning, I find that Remington green-box 300 grainers do indeed work (the sights still sit in the low range, 3/4 up for dead-on), but 405s max out at two inches low at 100.
My question, then, is: what gives?  Is this normal behavior for the b/c and its Williams sights?  Maybe the rifle/sights combo is maximized for higher-powered handloads?  Is it an individual variation in the rifle?  Assuming that changing sights is the way to fix the problem, what good (read: nearly indestructible) aftermarket sights are out there?

Thanks,

N.

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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 12:53:33 AM »
try the next shorter Lyman globe, I think the factory one is .585 There is a formula on lymans web site you can use to figure out what sight hieght you need.


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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 01:13:45 AM »
I think the replacement front you need in the globe is .404

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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 01:41:47 AM »
Welcome to GBO ...

That is quiet a name you have there. What is it that you hunt and gather?

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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 04:41:24 AM »
Welcome N!! The Lyman 17A sight is available in 3 heights, .584" or .494", available from H&R, or the .404". Several of us went to the .404" and are very happy with it. The sights are measured from the bottom of the dovetail to the center of the globe.

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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 05:13:09 PM »

<That is quiet a name you have there. What is it that you hunt and gather?>

About anything edible.  I'll still be eating pine nuts until I can get that sight upgraded and go knock down a wild pig.

Given the forum, I probably should have used my ol' timey prospector handle, Tin Pan Ted, rather than my hippie handle, but so be it.



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Re: Howdy. Buff classic 45-70 shooting low.
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 05:17:18 PM »
Thanks for the help.  Can't wait to hit something past 50 yards.