reduced recoil load for 270 Win.

[nodlenor]

Does anyone have a reduced recoil load for a 270 Win.? I love my 270s but after shoulder surgery I need something that wont hit me quite so hard. If anyone has a load that they have used that works well I would like to try it.

[Siskiyou]

 Years ago I loaded low recoil loads for my then 12-year old.  A friend who had a track record of killing deer with his .270 recommend his load using the 110 grain Sierra SPT (recommend for deer).  I loaded it with 46.0 grains of IMR4064, and 54 grains of H4831.  In theory the 46.0 grains of IMR4064 produced lighter recoil.

You can drop down to 41.5 grains of IMR4064 or 41 grains of IMR4895 with the same bullet for a further reduction in recoil and produce around 2800 fps.

The friend claimed to have killed a number of small wild pigs with this load.

From a ballistic stand point it exceeds most 105 grain .243 loads out to 400 yards.

[nodlenor]

Thanks; I have some H4831. I'm not going for Max speed I would rather have consistent accuracy. I'll try the H4831 first and if that doesn't help I'll give the IMR4064 and/or IMR4895 a try. I mostly shoot paper but I hunt whitetails too. I'll post my results but I'll wait until the weather warms up because I don't have heat in my reloading area.  THANKS again!!

[Siskiyou]

I have wanted to get into the garage to do some loading but it is cold, so I understand.

The H4831 load produced better accuracy.  I believe that was because it filled the case more.  IMR4064 accuracy was okay, just as good.

The IMR4064 load will produce about 2 pounds less recoil.  That maybe a lot depending on your comfort level with the H4831 load.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/rescources/calculators/php/recoil.htm

Edition V of the Sierra reloading manual has pictures of nice bucks taken using the 110 Sierra on pages 404 and 405.

Hope things turn around for you.

[Don Fischer]

You said 270's, plural. If you have more than one, have you concidered taking one and turning it into that 6.8 cartridge? I don't follow many of the new whupper stompers but I think it's a 270 on the 308 case? You'd probably be able to reduce recoil just through the use of the smaller case. I think the thing to remember is the only thing that would change is the size of the case.

[nodlenor]

Now there is an idea!! But I think I would rather just get another rifle. My first 270 is a 760 Rem. I bought it in 1966. Can't make myself alter that one. My second one is a brand new Howa 1500 SS. Just had it 2 months. It is too new to alter. I might just have to save up my pennies. Any suggestions on a fairly inexpensive rifle that comes in 6.8?

[Siskiyou]

A new rifle in 6.8 makes more sense.  The parent case for the 6.8 is reportedly the old .30 Remington case.  The rim diameter is 0.422 and the case length is 1.686.  The .270 Win. rim diameter is .473 and the case length is 2.540.  Plus the .270 case has a fatter body.  Sounds like a tough conversion, but the gunsmith and barrel maker might be able to pay for Christmas with the proceeds.  I think it is one of those conversions where you keep the butt plate and start over.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_specs.asp


6.8 Rem SPC   3   26"   9"   46 1/2"   7 3/8   27371   $559
                     

I doubt if a lot of firearm manufactures are lining up to chamber rifles in the 6.8 round at this point.  You might find a few AR manufactures that are chambering for the 6.8 Remington and you will find them rather pricey, but the recoil should be reduced.

Remington also sells a Managed recoil load for the .270 Winchester loaded with a 115 gr. C-L bullet.

I did some checking on some bullets and found a number of 6.8/270 bullets of interest.

Remington Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded Bullets 6.8mm Remington SPC (277 Diameter) 115 Grain Pointed Soft Point Box of 50

Barnes Triple-Shock X-Bullets 6.8mm Remington SPC (277 Diameter) 110 Grain Boat Tail Box of 50
Sierra Pro-Hunter Bullets 270 Caliber (277 Diameter) 110 Grain Spitzer Box of 100
The traditional, flat base design of the Pro-Hunter has been skillfully blended with Sierra's world-famous accuracy. The custom-tapered Pro-Hunter jacket design helps assure maximum expansion, optimum weight retention and deep penetration for game-stopping, 1-shot performance.
I did not list the Hornady 110 bullet because they say it is a varmint bullet.
Looks like there are a number of good bullets designed to work a low velocity on deer size game in the .270 Winchester.
Another option is CAST bullets.  Either cast them yourself or find a source.  As an example Lymans #280412 bullet will give you about 1445 fps using 13.5 grains of Unique.  The load produces about 2-pounds of recoil.

[nodlenor]

I looked at the Rem SPS long & hard before I finally chose the Howa. I don't know if I made the right choice or not but I do like the Howa. Anyway that sounds like a good option. I'm going to try some reduced loads for the 270 first & maybe some of the managed recoil ammo. THANKS for the input guys.

[BruceP]

nodlenor,
It just so happens that the Feb. 2008 issue of Shooting Times that I got this week has an article on reduced recoil loads. And for what cartridge you might ask. Well that would be the 270 Winchester. All of the loads listed are with 130 gr. bullets.

Bruce

[nodlenor]

Thanks, Bruce. I'll see if I can find a copy.