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Offline North Idaho

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Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« on: March 06, 2011, 10:25:33 AM »
Hello,

I'm looking for some help identifying my latest accession; it is an S&W 32 Hand Ejector.
3 1/4’’ barrel
Nickel plated
Caliber is .32 Long CTG
S/N 308xxx
Patten dates are Feb 6, 06; Sept 14, 09; Dec 29, 14
Asm  number on frame and crane match, 31497

There are several markings missing that I find on most S&W’s

S&W Logo missing from left side
Marca Registrada missing
Made in USA missing from Right side.

Any information will be very much appreciated.


https://www.gboreloaded.com/mhp/images/Gudrum/w002r.jpg

https://www.gboreloaded.com/mhp/images/Gudrum/w003r.jpg
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 04:52:53 PM »
Could be a spanish copy.And from what info I have read,quality  is not too good. Hope it is not the case.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 09:06:03 AM »
Im of the opion that Handejector refers to all S&W revolvers with a swing out cylinder? Could you narrow it down a bit with a pictue or two, please?
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 03:46:41 PM »
There's a link to 2 photos.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 03:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Gudrum on April 12, 2011, 03:46:41 PM
There's a link to 2 photos.
Nice pistol. Looks like an I frame?
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 02:26:59 PM »
Those early ones may lack the logo? Does anyone know when the logo started?
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 05:33:09 PM »
Mohawk, now that you bring it up, I don't know and have never seen it discussed on any forum? I've seen it on both sides of the frame thou. The Outdoorsman from the first year of production I once owned had it, so, it was around early in the 20th century. That Outdoorsman predates the gun shown.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 05:49:48 PM »
With the rivalry with Colt, I can almost guarantee it would have been marked S&W
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 06:41:50 PM »
Mohawk, there are inconsistencies with the marking of the early revolvers. A discussion of marking and the time frames would be very interesting and informative.

Steve, it is a very nice I-frame, manufactured between 1917 and 1922.

Mauser98us, The rivalry with Colt aside there are S&W revolvers that do not have the S&W logo or the Made in US. See the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 07:38:19 PM »
Well, one thing for sure, It's not a Merwin and Hulbert.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2011, 07:52:38 AM »
I don't have my .32-20 HE here but I could swear it does not have the traditional logo. IIRC it has S&W writing on top of the barrel maybe? I remember the patent date of 1922 or thereabouts.
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Re: Help with a S&W Hand Ejector
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2011, 06:10:22 AM »
I was just able to look at the pictures of your .32 Smith. I will have to say that it IS a S&W. If it isn't, that is  the best foreign copy I have EVER seen. I have seen Spanish and Italian copies and they don't even appear to be a Smith. And your patent dates appear to be in order for a Smith. My .32-20 has a patent of 1922 which was a later change of your design of the extractor rod on your gun. The best clue is the hammer spur. I have NEVER seen a Smith designed hammer spur on any other copy. And yours has the exact hammer spur for that era of Smith. If it were me, just for giggles, I would purchase a letter from Smith (Roy Jinks) and have it dated.
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