Oregon Trail Laser cast?

[Gene R]

Has anyone tried the Oregon Trail Laser Cast in 45 LC for hunting?
If so how do they perform?
I want to try the 250gr RNFP at arround 1100 fps, any information would be appreciated.

I have never reloaded before so this will be a new experience, I have several reloading manuals ordered.

[Savage]

1100 fps is pushing a 250 LRNFP pretty hard!  Haven't looked it up, but bet it's in the +P range. I'm a bit conservative (still have all my digits) but with a lead 250gr I'd be looking for something in the 950-1000fps range.  This would be quite effective out to practical handgun ranges.This is on the assumption that you're using a handgun, as you didn't specify.
Savage

[Graybeard]

That's easily attainable but it's NOT for Colt or Colt Clones for sure. In a strong gun like the Rugers and TCs it's a no sweat load.

[Gene R]

Thanks for the input, I use a Ruger BH 5.5".

Is there a need for a gas check at these velocities? I know nothing about cast bullets, and I'm concerned about leadding the barrel.
But I have been told that cast is the way to go for hunting deer as well as tough game like hogs. My max shooting distance is 50 or so yards.

[Luckyducker]

I am not speaking from personal experience, as I don't load for 45LC but my friend loads and shoots this caliber.  He has loaded this caliber with hard cast bullets faster than this in his Old Model Blackhawk and says he can't see a need for a gas check when the bullets are alloyed and hardened, as the O.T slugs are BTW.  Cast bullets have been taking deer sized game for a very long time and I see no reason why your 45 wouldn't be up to the task.  Hard cast bullets will penetrate better than anything except FMJ so shot placement is very critical.  Good luck and good hunting

[dave375hh]

Gene R,

I believe you'll have better results if you use a semi wadcutter or LBT WFN style bullet, rather than a RNFP. The flat meplat(nose) transfers more energy than a RNFP with it's small flat point. The flat nose is what makes cast bullets work so well on game.

[COR]

I'd have to agree that there are better bullet design choices (Keith SWC, WFN) but with proper bullet placement that bullet you mentioned will kill a deer.  I notice you mentioned 1100fps...900fps will get the job done on deer sized game so just find what's accurate. Hope that helps.

[Greeenriver]

I have taken two whitetail deer with the LaserCast RNFP, only mine were the 200grn ones. One from a 5&1/3 in Uberti revolver, and one from a Puma lever action carbine with a 20 in barrel.  Both were standing shots about 60 to 75 yds, and both penetrated both front shoulders and exited the other side.  Both deer were knocked down and flopped a bit before dieing, but didn't run.

The load used was a full case of compressed American Pioner Powder, (A Black Powder sub) under a 200grn RNFP. It was about 37 to 38 grn equivalent to equivalent load. 

Both bullets exited the animal and were not recovered.  I was satisfied with the performance of both guns and bullets. Both deer were about 150lb average whitetail does.

I realy love BP and  BP Sub shooting!!!!

Greeenriver

PS: This load gives about 800 fps in the pistols, and a little more in the rifles