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Sabots and Cast bullets
« on: November 28, 2007, 05:47:26 PM »
Any one have any experiences using cast bullets with 50 cal sabots?

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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 06:46:37 PM »
I've shot 405 grain bullets cast from wheel weights in a Lee aluminum mold with MMP orange sabots and 90 grains Pyrodex RS.  Got an average 4-shot velocity of 1487 fps and a 4-inch 100 yard group.  Didn't get to play around with different loads because the range session was called on account of rain.  Plan to give them a good workout after hunting season.  They look to have promise.

They are .458 diameter intended for the 45-70.
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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 04:50:06 AM »
I cast 240 gr and 310 bullets out of pure lead they are 429 to 430 diameter I shoot them in a green harvester sabot.  I also cast the .458 400 gr
I shoot them in the black sabot for 452 the work fine so far.  The 310 gr have a good punch to them and group well.  I like the 240 gr for light loads and plinking.

   
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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2007, 08:22:58 AM »
Semisane, that looks like a real killer.  It is long for caliber and should have a good BC. 

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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2007, 10:56:19 AM »
Hey alsaqr.  The BC is somewhere around .280.  The wheel weight one shoot great out of my 45-70 with moderate loads.  I need to cast some in pure lead to try in the muzzleloaders.  They would be cheap paper punchers and I would have no worries about whether they will kill whitetails.
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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 01:16:15 PM »
I've got some 45 cal minie balls that I put into a sabot and shot out of my 50 cal. Its a long bullet with a hollow base, so it ought to be very stable. As I remember they grouped real good, but I ran out of them. So I started shooting a 300gr. 45 cal cast bullet. But now that deer season is over, I'm going to play with the minie balls again, I cast a bunch about a month ago.

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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 07:47:55 AM »
I've used Cheap Shots for a few years with great results, but have recently switched to .430 cal Hornady XTP's ( 240's) and they are Death his bad self!I did try casting bullets for sabot use , pure lead, and got some strange results.I tried .44 and .45 cal bullets from 2-300 grains with T7 charges from 40-70 grains and EVERY bullet grew fins corresponding to the slots in the sabot petals.Accuracy was poor. 4 inch groups in a rifle that shoots Cheap Shots in to 2 inches and the XTP's under 1 1/2". Anyone else have this happen? I'm guessing the C.S.'s are an alloy as They dont suffer from the fins. To give  you an idea I measured the fins on a recovered 200 gr Lee .430 flat point driven by 40 grains of 3f T7 and got .478 across the fins.
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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2008, 05:03:59 PM »
That's what I used to hunt with. Work great.
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Re: Sabots and Cast bullets
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 09:14:32 AM »
Any one have any experiences using cast bullets with 50 cal sabots?

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When using over 80 grains 777 at 100 yards, they would tumble on me - experiencing sideways bullets on target paper. Tried Harvester and MMP sabots. You may experience better results using a weaker powder. I still have something like 485 out of 500 bulk bullets I purchased back then. Will save for a rainy day experiment.
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