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Offline jingle

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youth loads?
« on: January 16, 2008, 06:53:45 AM »
I'm searching for info. on reduced charges for my 50 inlines to get my kids hunting. They are 10 and 11 and are comfortable with shooting a 243. I currently run 2 50g. 777 pellets. What experience do you folks have with lesser charges, e.g., a 50 g plus a 20 pellet, or smaller charges of loose powder. I'm a chart type guy and I can't find any ballistics table that show energy (ft. lbs) with lighter loads.

Shots would be 50 yards or closer, with 75 yards a possibility. The deer aren't huge around here either. About 125 lbs. would be the rule or smaller. We run 250gr. Hornady XTPs or Barne's Expanders. The kids are also good shots.
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Re: youth loads?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 08:17:13 AM »
I don't know what guns you have access to but here is what I've done with my 63 pound 10 year old:

1)  When he was 7 or 8 I introduced him to the .22.  No recoil & cheap.  Started with a scoped 10/22, but then had him shoot another .22 with peep sights and even a scoped .22 pistol.   It didn't take long before he was shooting these well.  Nothing serious here, just controlled playing with an underlying theme: practice.

2)  This fall I set up my Scoped Knight Wolverine for him.  It is .54 cal and his first shot was 40 grains of 777 with a roundball.  I kept that first powder charge low so his first impression would be "I can handle this".  Next 2 or 3 shots were 45 grains of 777 and by the end of that day he was shooting 50 grains of 777 with no comments about any increased recoil.  I took him out one more time for practice with this load.  From a rest, I really felt a 50 yard shot would be no problem - he was shooting it quite well.  Also, I shot the gun a few times with 60 grains of 777 & saw no change in the point of impact (you know where that is going, right).

It took us about 3 hunts during youth season to kind of figure out what the deer were doing.  So on the 4th hunt we were about to set up in a field and noticed deer already there and coming slowly towards us.  I had a simple folding chair for him to rest the gun on.   A doe was almost in range when 4 more came out between us and the doe.  I told him to aim for the spine of the closest (90 yards) and shoot as soon as it cleared the others.  He did & the doe dropped at the shot.  I expected that old round ball to drop some at that distance but it didn't seem to, so it was a spine shot.  60 grains of 777 & the roundball did fine - pass thru.  I figured the load had similar ballistics to a .44 magnum.  He shot another doe with this load a month & a half later.

I'll probably have him shoot 250 grain XTPs next year and as much powder as I can sneak in there without him complaining.  
    

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Re: youth loads?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 08:27:41 AM »
seeing how you have a .50   a 245 grain powerbelt over 70-80 graisn powder should be light on recoil and put the deer down in their tracks.
I shoot a .45 with a 225 powerbelt and 80 grains pyrodex p. Very light recoil.