22-250 how long is to long?

[hogrdr]

It all started when I decided to go on a 2 Bear hunt in Canada. I hunt Archery so I decided to get a muzzle loader to take with my bow. After allot of research on the Internet I decided on a Omega. So went to Cabelas and the Omega just didn't feel right. Then it happened he handed me a Black Pro Hunter SST 209X50. I was in love it felt good and looked good so I bought one (not at Cabelas $799.00 + tax got mine at Sportsman Warehouse $712.79 out the door CHRISTmas special) Now I have this addiction I need barrels, barrels and more barrels. Wife thinks I need help as use to have a gun addiction but I have not shot my guns in 25 years. Is there a support group to help with this addiction?

Now my real delema I have no problem with 28" barrel on 300 win. mag or even a 270 win. but is 28" to long for a 22-250 rem. Has anyone shot both that can tell me the good or bad affects of a 28" barrel on a 22-250 The 3 calibers listed 300 win mag, 270 win, 22-250 rem. were my old favorites and I still have press, dies and brass for them so I can reload. Any advice would help as I like the cosmedic look of the 28" fluted barrel but not if the little bullit will not shoot good out of it.

[encore58]

My personal opinion is the barrel is too long and you may lose some FPS shooting out of a barrel that long. I would say 22 inches is plenty of barrel. What I would recommend is buying one from the Custom Shop. You will get a better barrel configured to your needs at roughly $60.00 extra.

[nilescoyote]

28" will work fine. You will just have less muzzle flash as the powder will have more room for a complete burn. I have a 22/250 26" in a bolt gun but nothing to compare velocity data against in shorter or longer  barrels. However I have several different barrel lengths in 223 and results there have been a increase from a 12" to  14" to 20" and 24" with big gains up to 20" and a smaller gain to 24". The 22/250 has nearly twice the powder capacity as a 223, going to a 28 inch barrel will not hurt velocity at all.

[Grumulkin]

Now my real delema I have no problem with 28" barrel on 300 win. mag or even a 270 win. but is 28" to long for a 22-250 rem. Has anyone shot both that can tell me the good or bad affects of a 28" barrel on a 22-250 The 3 calibers listed 300 win mag, 270 win, 22-250 rem. were my old favorites and I still have press, dies and brass for them so I can reload. Any advice would help as I like the cosmedic look of the 28" fluted barrel but not if the little bullit will not shoot good out of it.

Then Encore rifle is shorter than most bolt action rifles in the same chamberings so a 28 inch barrel shouldn't be too clumsy and you may gain an extra 50 fps in velocity.  My preference, however, is a barrel between 24 & 26 inches.

[Graycg]

I have a 23 inch and a 26 inch barrel each in 22-250, both TCR barrels.  With the same ammo, on the same frame, the 26 inch barrel shoots on an average 105 fps faster than the 23 inch barrel.  Just fyi- I'll bet if I had a 28, I'd get another 60 or so fps.

regards,
 graycg

[encore58]

I come from the school of short and stout. I'd have a 20" heavy barrel. You may lose minimum velocity but in a round like the 22-250 you have velocity to spare. You will gain accuracy in the short stout barrel. Less, muzzle whip. JMHOOC.




 

[giturgun]

My vssf 700 rem. 22-250 has a 26 inch fluted. The Savage 112 has a custom 28 inch Pac- nor 1x9 twist with a .250 neck. The 28 will probably shoot a few fps faster with slow powder. I ordered the 28 inch length because I wanted to try the heavier 69, 77 grain bullets. I did and guess what, I like the 60 gn V-max better than the heavier pills. Oh we all live and learn . The 700 will be a .224 TTH soon. I got to get around to ordering the reamer some day.

[hogrdr]

Thanks for all the advice seems we all have our opinions. I went and got the 300 and 270 barrels before the Sportsman Warehouse figures out they are $80.00 a barrel cheaper than Cabelas. the only two choices I have. (I am looking into GBO advertisers but $269.00 each seems to be a good price) I'm going to work with the 2 barrels I've got. The 300 is sweet a little problem with the case hanging up on the extractor with the belted cartridge. I'm looking at a 24" MGM for the 22-250 they will build anything and flute it if I'm willing to pay the price. Pretty happy at this point just waiting for less wind and warmer weather than 27 to worry about working up a load. 2" at 100 yards without really trying and pretty hard weather. I'll get a scope for the 270 next payday. I need to mention I was pleased with the recoil on the 300 that flex tec stock is nice.

Thanks to all! Love this board

[encore58]

  I'll get a scope for the 270 next payday. 

Excellent buy ------->  http://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/detail.asp?query=02975742395

  I'm looking at a 24" MGM for the 22-250 they will build anything and flute it if I'm willing to pay the price. 

Good choice!

[kudzu]

My 28'' prohunter barrel is sighted in at 1.75'' high at 100 and is still 1.5'' high at 300. The 28'' tube seems to be working well for me. I'm shooting the 50gr Rem Accutips  and getting sub 2'' groups at 300 yards.
Don't know "how long is to long", but 28'' seems to work quite well

[hogrdr]

Thanks dancoman

Thats what I wanted to hear as I really like the cosmetic look of the 28" fluted barrel. Now I can add one  to the young collection!

[kyelkhunter3006]

  I'll get a scope for the 270 next payday. 

Excellent buy ------->  http://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/detail.asp?query=02975742395

  I'm looking at a 24" MGM for the 22-250 they will build anything and flute it if I'm willing to pay the price. 

Good choice!

Just out of curiosity, what scope is the link for?  It didn't work for me.

[encore58]

  I'll get a scope for the 270 next payday. 

Excellent buy ------->  http://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/detail.asp?query=02975742395

  I'm looking at a 24" MGM for the 22-250 they will build anything and flute it if I'm willing to pay the price. 

Good choice!

Just out of curiosity, what scope is the link for?  It didn't work for me.

Sale must be over. They had the Bushnell 3x9x40 Elite 4200 scopes for $199.00   

[encore58]

Thanks dancoman

Thats what I wanted to hear as I really like the cosmetic look of the 28" fluted barrel. Now I can add one  to the young collection!

To each his own but why go for a long whippy barrel in a varmit cal.?
Try the short stout ones for the best in accuracy. But, too each his own. My guess is the pro-Hunter barrels will become a thing of the past sooner than later. Been wrong before though. 

[kyelkhunter3006]

  I'll get a scope for the 270 next payday. 

Excellent buy ------->  http://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/detail.asp?query=02975742395

  I'm looking at a 24" MGM for the 22-250 they will build anything and flute it if I'm willing to pay the price. 

Good choice!

Just out of curiosity, what scope is the link for?  It didn't work for me.

Sale must be over. They had the Bushnell 3x9x40 Elite 4200 scopes for $199.00   

Sigh, I always seem to miss the good ones.  Oh well.

[kudzu]

Thanks dancoman

Thats what I wanted to hear as I really like the cosmetic look of the 28" fluted barrel. Now I can add one  to the young collection!

To each his own but why go for a long whippy barrel in a varmit cal.?
Try the short stout ones for the best in accuracy. But, too each his own. My guess is the pro-Hunter barrels will become a thing of the past sooner than later. Been wrong before though. 

Probably a lot later than sooner. I now have 3 PH barrels that shoot under 2'' at 300 yrds (actually 2 are under 1 1/2'') , this is an all fac set-up except for a new trigger spring in one frame., including factory ammo. Not only are these barrels accurate but with this being a market driven industry and just about every TV hunter shootin one I don't see them goin away any time soon. QC would really have to slip. And even if you like long or short or in between we most all agree that TC is a great Co. to associate with.
Encore58, not wanting to start a wee weeing contest , but seems to me most bench shooters are using at least 28'' tubes. This has to be for a reason. I know we are talkin huntin here but accuracy is accuracy. Even with the 28'' pro hunter barrels the OAL of the rifle is still shorter than some of my bolts with 22'' barrels.
As you said "too each his own". And only time will tell if you willl be wrong AGAIN. 

And just for the record, it happens to the best of us. 

[encore58]

Thanks dancoman

Thats what I wanted to hear as I really like the cosmetic look of the 28" fluted barrel. Now I can add one  to the young collection!

To each his own but why go for a long whippy barrel in a varmit cal.?
Try the short stout ones for the best in accuracy. But, too each his own. My guess is the pro-Hunter barrels will become a thing of the past sooner than later. Been wrong before though. 

Probably a lot later than sooner. I now have 3 PH barrels that shoot under 2'' at 300 yrds (actually 2 are under 1 1/2'') , this is an all fac set-up except for a new trigger spring in one frame., including factory ammo. Not only are these barrels accurate but with this being a market driven industry and just about every TV hunter shootin one I don't see them goin away any time soon. QC would really have to slip. And even if you like long or short or in between we most all agree that TC is a great Co. to associate with.
Encore58, not wanting to start a wee weeing contest , but seems to me most bench shooters are using at least 28'' tubes. This has to be for a reason. I know we are talkin huntin here but accuracy is accuracy. Even with the 28'' pro hunter barrels the OAL of the rifle is still shorter than some of my bolts with 22'' barrels.
As you said "too each his own". And only time will tell if you willl be wrong AGAIN. 

And just for the record, it happens to the best of us. 

It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. Yes, we can all agree that TC makes good products. I came from an era where short and stout barrels were the way to go. Maybe times are changing. I am not against the Pro Hunter barrels, just thought for a 22-250 in 28" seemed a little long. I think in a round like the .280 or 7mm Rem. Mag. it would be sweet.
Anyways, good shoot'n and no offense taken. We all have our opinions. That what makes the world go around.  :-)

Ed

[kudzu]

One of my barrels is a 280. Have shot touching groups at 300 with it, and almost allways under 11/2 with the fac 140 Fusion. Did most of my WT hunting with this rifle this past season. Was very pleased. Don't Know what took me so long to get a 280. and really can't understand why it's not a more popular round.

[encore58]

If I ever buy a Pro Hunter barrel it will be a .280. A 7mm bullet out of 06 case is winner for sure. The 25-06 would be choice number two.

Glad to hear TC is making barrels that good.

Ed

[kudzu]

25-06  That's my other barrel. It will also shoot under  11/2'' at 300 yrds. This is also with the fed fusion 120gr.
Encore58, we gunna have you a safe full of PH barrels before it's over.
We had better hurry tho, as they we be short lived

[hogrdr]

Don't know why anyone would be afraid of 28" barrel they are not that long overall. Just wanted to make sure it would shoot in a smaller caliber. I love my 300 win. mag it feels and handles better than my old bolt action rifle. I love my prohunter it's put fun back in to rifle hunting and shooting. As far as the 22-250 will be used sitting on a hill shooting off a harris by pod sniping yoties and groundhogs average 200 yard shots.

[encore58]

Don't know why anyone would be afraid of 28" barrel they are not that long overall. Just wanted to make sure it would shoot in a smaller caliber. I love my 300 win. mag it feels and handles better than my old bolt action rifle. I love my prohunter it's put fun back in to rifle hunting and shooting. As far as the 22-250 will be used sitting on a hill shooting off a harris by pod sniping yoties and groundhogs average 200 yard shots.

Kill every yote you see. They have a habit of killing beagles running rabbits. Especially here in a few months when they have their young. They hate dogs and fox. Will kill them if given the opportunity everytime.

I think I will put a 280 on my wish list before they quit making them. LOL