Thanks for your reply Jim. I can hold a group of about half an inch at 25 metres with open sights and , for me, I'd say that is about as good as it gets. The accuracy seems to be the same with Winchester Superspeed and Winchester Supreme target loads. A scope sight would probably sort them out, but not enough to worry about. It's an amazing little rifle, it really is a scaled down '98 (apart from being a rear locker). The bolt even has that "Mauser" rattle!