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Offline Icy Straits

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1894 scope rails
« on: May 19, 2008, 10:36:47 AM »
I mounted a little 2x 20mm scope on my 1895c with the only rail I can find locally, a Weaver , and there is only two notches on the rail for rings. The scope needs to mount further forward to take adavtage of the longer  eye relief. Do you guy know of any rail options that would give me more flexibality on the scope mount. Don't want to go scout if I don't have to. That little gun is a shooter at 50 yards with 158g 357 rounds. I was getting cloverleafs. Thanks.

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Re: 1894 scope rails
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2008, 08:31:40 PM »
I saw this lately and thought it was a great idea.
http://www.gunaccessories.com/AOSights/LeverScopeMounts.asp
I just found this one and am thinking of ordering it myself
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=677368

I have not been happy with my scope being in the way of the hammer.  The reviews of these I have read indicate you can mount the scope back far enough it is not like a typical scout mount and I went ahead and ordered one so am going to give it a try.  I think I would be ok with a scout if I have to but plan to keep it back a ways.  The scope I currently have has a lot of eye relief but not enough for a far foward mount so am hoping this is the one for me.

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Re: 1894 scope rails
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 03:05:23 AM »
Thanks, that looks interesting.

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Re: 1894 scope rails
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2008, 03:26:33 AM »
I wish Weaver would make their Marlin bases more flexible, with all the scope choices today you often find combinations that don't work. One thing about them though, they are aluminum, so I don't hesitate to get out the file and work them over. The reason I do that instead of shopping around is that I have standardized all my guns to Weaver. They are reasonably priced, sturdy, easily available, easy to modify, and you can remove and replace the scope and the zero is always good.

One combination I have ,low rings with a Simmons 1.5-5 shotgun scope, I had to file a new notch, and then knock the height at the rear of the base down to clear the power ring on the scope. Still it only took at most half an hour. I wouldn't consider using anything but low rings, because of the low combs on Marlins. You want your eye to be right there when you throw the rifle up on a gun like a Marlin. If you're shooting prairie dogs you can fiddle and jiggle, but when you are trying to hit a deer bouncing through the brush, there's no time for that.

I don't even bother to try to refinish my bases after I whack on them. Being aluminum they won't corrode, and the shiny surfaces are almost entirely hid. Just be sure to make any cross notches big enough that the ring fits fully down on the top of the base. Modify only one of the notches, one should be left untouched to hold the scope in recoil.

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Re: 1894 scope rails
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »
I got the parts in today.  I spent about 4 hrs today working on this gun.  I did a detailed cleaning and also replaced the loading gate which I have had problems with since I got the gun and think it is why the guy was selling it.  I think about 2 hrs was involved in the new mount.  I had to do a lot of filing (or a little depending on how you take it---only removed a small amount but did it a very small amount at a time) to get things to fit.  The post that goes in the rear sight dovetail said to file to fit, it said does not have to be exact since it has a set screw and this is true.  I was trying to make it exact but went just a touch over lucky me for the set screw.  Now the fit is very tight and it is   
supposed to be but had to do some filing on the front screw hole so the rear holes in the receiver would line up right.  According to instructions, the only marlin that would need this is the 336 but my 1894 needed it as well.  Over all it was very rewarding work, however I think there product is a bit over priced but I bought it anyway.  I can now mount the scope anywhere from where it was before to a forward scout mount.  I choose to mount it leaving about a 1 inch form the rear of the receiver to the rear of the scope.  I like the way the gun feels and shoulders now.  I broke one the rings screws and emailed Simmons for a replacement so will not get to shoot for a while.  I am now thinking of adding the ghost site on the same web page and getting a set of quick detach rings.  This would allow me a longer  sight radius than the original irons, a back up sight in case having scope problems in the field, ability to hunt with irons if I want to ( and I do some), and removing scope in the off season would give me a nice home defense gun (along with all the others). 
1st picture: originally took to show off new recoil pad--see how the scope is in the way of the hammer
2nd pic: close up of mount and broke screw
3rd pic: Notice the new loading gate as well
4th pic: broke screw
5th pic: full profile view

update:  Just got word from Simmons that they would send me a new bolt out free of charge.