Hey Guys, I use the stretchy nylon holder but in a different way. I ran a velcro strap through the ammo loop on each end so I can wear it on my left arm. This way I have four rounds right at my fingertips and next to the breech . If I needed to reload quickly I do not even have to take my eyes off the deer. I am a right handed shooter so when I pop the gun open I am holding it in my left hand and the buttstock drops down , the shells are right there on my arm just a couple inchs from the chamber Also, I have less chance of losing a shell when pushing through the heavy stuff as has happened with the buttstock holder. My ammo is always in my view.