Go Giants

[six_gunz]

You might also want to do a little research before posting replies to a subject that you know nothing about. The Patriots were fined
because the cameraman filmed from the sideline against league rules. Had he been up in the stands where he was supposed
to be there would have been no fine.

Wow, you really don't know anything of what you speak.  Are you sure you're a Patriot fan?
There was no "cameraman" The Patriots hired a guy off the street and dressed him up in a Patriots uniform and brought him out onto their sideline (illegal BTW) during the GAME to "illegally film" (since it is "ILLEGAL to film with cameras on the field from any location) the opposing team's play signals.  You want a link to this info? Go to the NFL website, it's all there in BLACK & WHITE....go read it for yourself, then you can come back here and call them all liars too. Proved your point? The only point I proved is that everything you said is BS and you don't know JACK!!
You're just another Patriot fan in denial. I'm done with you and this thread....go argue with some naive 10 yr old kid's whom you can convince you know of what you speak......go see a shrink....get some counseling...maybe he/she will prescribe you some anti-depressants.....whatever will help you progress and get past your beloved Patriots FALL from GLORY and get on with your life. You can keep posting here but I will not respond to your meaningless, pointless, posts of denial.

[Doublebass73]

You might also want to do a little research before posting replies to a subject that you know nothing about. The Patriots were fined
because the cameraman filmed from the sideline against league rules. Had he been up in the stands where he was supposed
to be there would have been no fine.

Wow, you really don't know anything of what you speak.  Are you sure you're a Patriot fan?
There was no "cameraman" The Patriots hired a guy off the street and dressed him up in a Patriots uniform and brought him out onto their sideline (illegal BTW) during the GAME to "illegally film" (since it is "ILLEGAL to film with cameras on the field from any location) the opposing team's play signals.  You want a link to this info? Go to the NFL website, it's all there in BLACK & WHITE....go read it for yourself, then you can come back here and call them all liars too. Proved your point? The only point I proved is that everything you said is BS and you don't know JACK!!
You're just another Patriot fan in denial. I'm done with you and this thread....go argue with some naive 10 yr old kid's whom you can convince you know of what you speak......go see a shrink....get some counseling...maybe he/she will prescribe you some anti-depressants.....whatever will help you progress and get past your beloved Patriots FALL from GLORY and get on with your life. You can keep posting here but I will not respond to your meaningless, pointless, posts of denial.

Easy there tough guy. You should learn to relax, it's only the internet.

You made the claim that the Patriots hired a lip reader. I asked for proof and you can't provide it. Who's the liar?

In fact, you've done nothing to prove that I'm wrong. All you seem to know how to do is call me names when you have
no facts to back up your silly conspiracies. Oh well, I should have known you were nothing but an internet tough guy.

[Brett]

You guys take your sports way too seriously.   The way you are going at each other you would think you were in line for a piece of the Super Bowl winners check or something.   Take a deep breath and repeat after me...  It's only a game... It's only a game... It's only a game.   

[30-06man]

You guys take your sports way too seriously.   The way you are going at each other you would think you were in line for a piece of the Super Bowl winners check or something.   Take a deep breath and repeat after me...  It's only a game... It's only a game... It's only a game.   

Doesn't matter now as if it ever did. Its too late and neither of you can do a damn thing about it. Stop acting like that. Its childish because it is just a game. Also I have almost had it with the personal attacks and why don't both of you back down before you make yourselves look stupid for locking a third or forth football thread.

[Doublebass73]

You guys take your sports way too seriously.   The way you are going at each other you would think you were in line for a piece of the Super Bowl winners check or something.   Take a deep breath and repeat after me...  It's only a game... It's only a game... It's only a game.   

Doesn't matter now as if it ever did. Its too late and neither of you can do a damn thing about it. Stop acting like that. Its childish because it is just a game. Also I have almost had it with the personal attacks and why don't both of you back down before you make yourselves look stupid for locking a third or forth football thread.

I tried to keep it civilized. He threw out all these accusations i.e. lip readers. I asked for credible proof and he called me a bunch of names instead of giving proof because there isn't any.

If you read through my posts you'll see I acknowledged that the Patriots broke the rules and that the Giants deserved to win the Super Bowl. My whole argument is that so many people blindly throw out wrong information regarding the Patriots without taking time to learn the facts. If you hate the Patriots that's fine but be prepared to be challenged if you throw out incorrect information. Back up what you say with credible proof rather than just calling me names.

[NYH1]

Easy guys, lets not get to wound up!

[six_gunz]

Just one last question, is that you or your "life partner" in that photo? 

[Doublebass73]

Just one last question, is that you or your "life partner" in that photo? 

A few more words of wisdom from six_gunz. Tell us more!

[myronman3]

you know, the winter has been long around here and i know how a little conflict helps to pass the time.  sometimes an opinion hits a nerve, then one thing is said, then another, then another.  pretty soon it is out of control.  been there myself.   sometimes threads like this let you see a side of some folks that you really dont like and arent likely to forget.   i have experienced that, too. 

   it aint my place to say it,  as i am not the moderator.    but it needs to be reigned it in.   show that you can be adults and quit the petty b.s..   

[30-06man]

you know, the winter has been long around here and i know how a little conflict helps to pass the time.  sometimes an opinion hits a nerve, then one thing is said, then another, then another.  pretty soon it is out of control.  been there myself.   sometimes threads like this let you see a side of some folks that you really dont like and arent likely to forget.   i have experienced that, too. 

   it aint my place to say it,  as i am not the moderator.    but it needs to be reigned it in.   show that you can be adults and quit the petty b.s..  

Agreed. I am not the Moderator of this forum either. For that you need a Global Mod, Bill, or Matt.

[myronman3]

For that you need a Global Mod, Bill, or Matt.

yeah, i am aware of  that. 
    i dont feel that bill, matt, or global moderators need to be bothered with every little issue that comes up; especially when a word or two from other members solves the problem.   unless something is so over the top, i prefer to let those people deal with the other issues that come up.     
    someone running to them over every little thing reminds me of my 6 and two 4 year olds running to me or the wife instead of working it out themselves.    it HAS to get old after awhile.  and, it takes  flavor away from the site. 

[30-06man]

For that you need a Global Mod, Bill, or Matt.

yeah, i am aware of  that. 
    i dont feel that bill, matt, or global moderators need to be bothered with every little issue that comes up; especially when a word or two from other members solves the problem.   unless something is so over the top, i prefer to let those people deal with the other issues that come up.    
    someone running to them over every little thing reminds me of my 6 and two 4 year olds running to me or the wife instead of working it out themselves.    it HAS to get old after awhile.  and, it takes  flavor away from the site. 

Yup. I have only bothered Bill to lock 2 post before. Ohh well. It looks like this one has calmed down again.