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Offline JeffG

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Scope choice for coyotes?
« on: April 08, 2008, 02:51:01 PM »
I am contemplating the purchase of the Savage model 12 varminter in  223 with a composite stock. The trigger, the Savage name and my great experiences with Savage rifle pretty much have sealed it.

The second part of the equation is the scope. I am looking at the TruGlow 6-24 power scope Natchez is offering. Any thoughts? I know it's the off season but what a great price. Is the 6x too much for the base power?

Let me know what you think, thanks. JeffG
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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 08:51:07 PM »
I prefer a fixed 6X scope on a calling rifle. This power is low enough for close in shots, but is still powerful enough for shooting out to 250+ yards.

My 223 has a Leupold 6x42 on it, and my Hornet has a Weaver 6x38. Both are plenty bright in low light, and are excellent scopes for predator hunting.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 01:53:09 AM »
I have 2 go to coyote rifles. 1 is and AR for up close and personal and when running them with dogs. It wears a 3 x 9 Leupold, and is carried on 3X most of the time. The other rifle is my reach out and touch them. It is a .22-6mm and wears an 8 1/2 x 25 Leupold. This rifle is for set and wait, you don`t want to carry it far. In my opinion, the best all around scope for a .223 is the Leupold VX 3 in 3 1/3 x 10. Their VX2 3x9 is is a close second. Higher power scopes are nice for bench work, but can be a problem in the field.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2008, 03:58:28 AM »
I've had a few...My new one on the .270 is the VX-L Leupold in 6x14x50mm and the old standby that has killed more coyutes than any other while on my .270 was the Simmons ATV in 3.5x14x44mm.  I now have put that on my savage Heavy barrel 112.  I went all out w/ the Leupold (said I'd never pay that much for one!) in anticipation of finally being able to kill some of the problem wolves here in the U.P. of Michigan.  Its dead on at 300 yards w/ the 90 Gr Speer Tnt's!   ;D  ;D


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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2008, 04:01:01 AM »
I bought the BSA 6x24x40mm w/ the lit recticle and it was too bright at night and hindered my night vision.  I took it off and its for sale if anyone wants it?  Not an overall bad scope if someones not too serious for varmint.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 09:27:41 AM »
I have three. One 22-250 and two 223s. All of them wear 3x9x40 scopes. One rifle is a loaner for someone that goes with me that doesn't have rifle. It carries a Simmons. The other two wear Leupold.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 09:29:38 AM »
My 223 carries a 4-12x40.
4 is plenty low for close shots, and 12 is hard enough to steady without a bench.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 10:58:41 AM »
IMO which scope depends on the scenario's you run into the most often in the habitats you call the most often.   Here in the wide open spaces of the west, sometimes very long shots is all you will get, especially if they have been pestered by ranch hands or hunted hard and commonly hang up way out.   Other times they'll come in so close a 1X scope is too much and you can just about bop them on the head with the barrel.    So for most of my calling I prefer a mid range scope with a combination somewhere in the 2X to 14X range.   A 2-7 or 3-9 is just about perfect in areas I don't have to make very long shots often, a 4-14 if I do.   And as suggested, keep your scope on the lowest magnification and use sticks.   With lots of experience, a thorough knowledge of your calling area and proper set up you might have a pretty good idea where they will show up and where you plan to take the shot.   But they have a bad habit of popping up in unexpected places... right in your lap or way out and hung up.   Up close you probably won't have the time or opportunity to turn a scope down - far out usually plenty of chances to turn a scope up to a higher magnification.   If you are going to use a variable scope, you need to know exactly where your firearm/load shoots at all ranges with the scope set on various magnifications at those same ranges.   Another factor... while adjustable objectives may be great for target shooting at the same known range, they can be a real problem in the field if shots can run anywhere from zero to hundreds of yards on short notice.   Movement to fiddle with a scope busts a lot of stands.   If your scope has one, I would pick a mid-range adjustment for that particular setup location rather than try to dial the range in with a predator coming in.   No doubt the easiest would be to use a fixed power/objective scope if your common situations would allow it.   Since the scenario can vary so much here even in like habitats and its common to get multiples (in real close sometimes), I carry an open sighted handgun I am very comfortable with for the closest shots and use the main firearm for the rest.   

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 03:31:47 PM »
Scopes opinions are like big mouths, everybody has one.  For coyotes I moved from a Bushnell 3200 Elite 10X40  Mil Dot fixed power, which I really do love, to a Bushnell
4-26X40 Mil Dot.  I just wanted a little more power to see further. I usually crank it down to about 12X to shoot.  You see more with less power. I know there are more expensive scopes out there, and I have had a few, but for the money the Bushnell Elite series is hard to beat.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 04:58:55 PM »
All good replies here, I guess I was asking a question that I had the answer to.  I guess I was looking for a little something different.  3X9 and 4X12 have served me well in the past, they will in the future.  Thanks everyone. JeffG
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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2008, 06:54:58 PM »
Scopes opinions are like big mouths, everybody has one.  For coyotes I moved from a Bushnell 3200 Elite 10X40  Mil Dot fixed power, which I really do love, to a Bushnell
4-26X40 Mil Dot.  I just wanted a little more power to see further. I usually crank it down to about 12X to shoot.  You see more with less power. I know there are more expensive scopes out there, and I have had a few, but for the money the Bushnell Elite series is hard to beat.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 03:19:52 AM »
Scopes opinions are like big mouths, everybody has one.  For coyotes I moved from a Bushnell 3200 Elite 10X40  Mil Dot fixed power, which I really do love, to a Bushnell
4-26X40 Mil Dot.  I just wanted a little more power to see further. I usually crank it down to about 12X to shoot.  You see more with less power. I know there are more expensive scopes out there, and I have had a few, but for the money the Bushnell Elite series is hard to beat.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 05:49:30 AM »
I have been using a 12X 40mm Leupold gold ring for quite some time now. I have seen guys become flustered with a 6x and go to a four power.
The thing is that You Must find your target and shoulder the rifle with your focal point being on the target. (not the opposite)
You can easily prove this to yourself on much smaller game than Coyotes. Squirrels are great practice for getting your glass on the animal quickly.

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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 02:04:06 AM »
Rick, I guess we'll just have to call you "Boats".  I was a YN2, served from '61 - '68.  On the scopes, I use only 50 mm because of old eyes and they range from 3 - 9, fixed 4, and 4 - 24.  They all have their times.  I have one with a 40mm objective, and I'll probably trade it soon.
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Re: Scope choice for coyotes?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 05:25:46 PM »
Unless you are going for extreme long range shots any quaility 3x9 or 4x12 will serve you well for coyote.  I would look for a med thickness reticle.  keep it on a low power and only turn it up for longer shots.
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