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Offline dk17hmr

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30-30 to 7.62x54R
« on: March 08, 2008, 05:31:05 PM »
I know this has been talked about before, I know it will clean up a 30-30 chamber.  What ejector/extractor would work for it?  I think I want to build one.  I also know that 7.62x54r is larger then .308 usually .311+.  My intention would be to shoot cast bullet in it mostly maybe some jacketed bullets, no mil surplus and everything would be hand loaded.  Last time I talked to my smith it was $50 to re chamber.

Anyone have one?

I can get a new Handi in 30-30 for $200 plus tax so for about $300 I could get this done.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 06:58:48 PM »
It would work, you would have to find a reamer with a small pilot on it.  You would then have a rifle with slightly less performance than a .308 has.  The ejector for a .410 may work with a little modification.  I have a 300 Savage reamer that could get you about the same thing.  Larry
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 09:41:08 PM »
Or...find a 7.63X39 barrel which already is bored at .310.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 04:57:04 AM »
Why not just re-chamber it and then just load .308 bullets in the 54r cases?????  My dad and I shoot .308 bullets out of out mosins. Before anyone says .... I know I know mosins are .311
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 05:18:31 AM »

    :)  I want to do a 30-40 Krag or a 30-40 Krag Improved , but I  won't  attempt it until I am sure everything will be centered up from the firing pin to the muzzle &  I'll end up with a "clean - tight" chamber.  No use going to the time, trouble & expense if reasonable improvement cannot be expected !   ::)   Jim
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 07:26:44 AM »
Quote from: Nightstalker6117 on March 09, 2008, 04:57:04 AM
Why not just re-chamber it and then just load .308 bullets in the 54r cases?????  My dad and I shoot .308 bullets out of out mosins. Before anyone says .... I know I know mosins are .311


Not all Mosin Nagants are .311, some are .308.
It depends on which arsenal they were made at.


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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 07:56:35 AM »
NightStalker,
That would be what I would do.  Actually probably .309 cast bullets.

Stan,
Try and find a 7.62x39 barrel that some one is willing to part with.

Last night I put a 7.62x54 empty into my 45-70 barrel, the ejector worked but I could see the rim being to small for a 45-70 ejector.  I also tried the empty in my 410 barrel, it wouldnt chamber but it appears that ejector would be small enough to expand out to work properly.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 12:49:34 PM »
I have done a lot of reloading for Mosins.  If you have RCBS or other dies that have a replaceable expander you can substitute a 308 expander for the 311 and have a usable setup.  Just a thought.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 03:32:46 PM »
The 500 S&W ejector/extractor should work the case head is real close to the same size. I re barreled A mosin to a 500 s&w an had no issues with the extractor.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 03:51:10 PM »
I would think that .30-40 cases would be much easier to find.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 05:13:17 PM »
I re chambered a 7.62x39 to a 7.62x54R. Shoots about 2 inch at a 100 yards with factory ammo. Haven't reloaded for it yet. Bob
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 05:21:14 PM »
I have dies and brass for both the 30-40 and the 7.62x54r, I cast my own bullets in 30 caliber.  Either would be a big step up from 30-30.  But the 30-30 and 30-40 dont do much for me.  I more or less want something different to play with, I like my Mosin but not enough to go ahead and scope it and restock it.  I do however like the cartridge...  that is why I am looking at rechambering a new 30-30 handi.
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 05:34:30 PM »
Problem you will have is the reamer will not fit in a .308 bore, the pilot will be ground for a .311 bore.  If you find a removable pilot reamer and put a .308 pilot on it you will then get a thoat cut for .311 in a 308 barrel, and a neck to match, all in all a hosed up affair.  Things are just not that easy.  Larry
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Re: 30-30 to 7.62x54R
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2008, 02:05:28 PM »
i'd argue for the krag, because reloading would be so much easier. do the ackley improved version, and equal the .308 ballistics, easily.
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