Encore Frame

[B2crawler]

Just bought a new blued Encore frame and walnut stock.  Not sure about from whom or what caliber barrels I'll buy yet.  Can you not cock back that hammer without a barrel installed on the frame?  Kinda bummed out that I can't feel the trigger to see what I've got.  Also anyone have a comment on the kick of a 300WM out of an encore.  I have two other 300 WMs, a classic 70 with the boss, and heavy barrel Remington 700.  Neither of those two bother me in the least, but I think the encore will be a different ball game, being lighter and  I won't own another braked or ported gun.   If the encore doesn't kick like a mad mule in this caliber I might like to use it for elk hunting.
Also how well is the frame going to withstand A LOT of shooting out of a Magnum 50,000+ psi cal.

thanks

[tlyne]

Yes , you can cock the hammer back without a barrel on the frame. Inside the frame on the right-side lower down. you see a silver shoe. you can push back the silver metal with your left  finger as you pull back on the hammer. The frame is cock. I may have not did a good job on telling how to do it. But give it a try.

[Kurt L]

 the 243 win is listed at  53000 cup .but it will bark a lot more than a 243win
22-250 is also listed 53000 cup 25-06 shows 53000 cup 300wm shows 54000 cup with a larger case head diameter.
I don't think you should have any problems at least he has not had any trouble, but he don't shoot it a lot.
a buddy of mine has one he is 6' about 130-150# and it beats him up.
he bought a 300 weatherby with a brake and likes that as it don't beat him up.
you might be all together fine with it.
why won't you have another braked or ported if you don't mind me asking?

[B2crawler]

You know I had pushed that thing in before and tried to cock it, but wasn't sure and just wasn't pulling back hard enough to cock  duh.
Trigger really isn't that bad.  I'd bet it's about 4 pounds but no creep and smooth feeling.  Way better than my handi rifle.

[B2crawler]

That boss is freakin LOUD.  I've shot it exactly twice without ear protection.  First time was over the hood of a truck and I wanted to know what it was going to be like.  Was the worst feeling my ears have ever gone through.  Next time was at a doe that I killed and yes I didn't even think about the ear plugs in my pocket.  Not as bad as shooting off the truck, but still physically hurt.
Also I pulled the boss off at the range before (I know not good for the threads) and fired couple of rounds.  I don't think it kicked much more without it.  That red winchester pad is long gone for a decelerator pad.  I think that works better than the break.  Speaking of which the encore pad is a rock and will have to go.

[30-06man]

You have to tune the Boss for it to work right. I don't like them. Too loud and complicated but do work well if they are tuned.

[scratcherky]

Dryfiring the Encore can damage the firing pin return spring. It is a very delicate cone shaped spring that is easily deformed by dryfiring.

[youthpastorjon]

You can always buy some snap caps to get used to your trigger pull.

[B2crawler]

No barrel to buy snap caps for.  I just put something soft between the frame and hammer when I was checking it out...like my finger.
Something else I've noticed is that my forend looks like it's for the light taper barrels.  All the barrels I'm interested in are the HB profile.  What are the chances of ordering another walnut forend for a HB and having it match my walnut stock.  I've seen pictures of Encore rifles with two different colors of wood....not pleasing to my eyes.  Can I get out a file and start removing wood till a HB fits?  Maybe I should just buy a laminate stock set for a HB. 

[30-06man]

I never use snap caps. They would $20 you to death to have one for every gun. I don't own any Heavy Barrels but I don't see why you couldn't remove the walnut until it fitted. If I am correct the HB forearm needs to be ordered from the Custom Shop and the walnut should look the same and if it doesn't sand and refinish it.

[youthpastorjon]

I don't use snap caps either.  It was just an idea for a guy seems to really want to pull the trigger.  Personally  I would buy a couple boxes of shells and get used to my trigger that way.

[30-06man]

You can fold up a wash cloth and put it there between the frame and hammer and fire it all you want. That's how I do it if I don't want to shoot it.

[B2crawler]

If only I had a 28" barrel 22-250 pastorjohn.  If I could just find that at a good deal I'd surly take a couple boxes of my reloads out to test that trigger.  haha
Really though did you sell that barrel?

[Grumulkin]

Putting your finger between the hammer and frame is a good way to test the trigger; as others have said, don't dry fire it.

As far as recoil is concerned, I had an unbraked 375 H&H Mag. barrel for my Encore.  For shooting off the bench, I went to using a lead sled though off hand it wasn't bad.  I took several large African animals with it.  Due to the recoil, I got bitten by the scope several times.  If you're going to use an unbraked 300 Win. Mag. barrel on your Encore frame, make sure the scope you use has plenty of eye relief or it will bite you.  Personally, I would go with a braked barrel and just make sure to use ear protection.

For stocks, I prefer the composite thumbhole versions.  I just bought forends for all the barrel profiles I had or thought I might have.

As far as durability of the Encore is concerned, they are very durable (I shoot mine with a variety of high intensity cartridges) and if you manage to wear one out, last I knew, T/C would give you a new one.

[BubbaNColo]

Not sure if you got a answer on recoil from a Encore in 300 WM.
I owned one using a wood stock and forearm and it was a lot at the range using 200 grain partitions thou I could somewhat handle it.
I tend to get my cheek wacked hard by the stock on a Encore, my eyes are close togather and I was using high mounts I think this caused the stock to not be firmly against my cheek. Now offhand the 26" heavy barrel was very well balanced and didn't bother me at all. Too be honest I never shot that barrel all that good, group wise. Thou I killed a Buffalo with it, darn 200 grain Partitions really open up a Buffalo and destroyed the lungs completely and exited back side! Now the last time I shot it I swore at it and sold it but was using the Rynite stock which is lighter but will cause more kick. Advise wood and a limb saver to make things easier. Now I shot a 45-70 out of a Encore and thought it was MUCH harder kicking!

[B2crawler]

  Bought a 300 WM barrel yesterday and can't wait to try it out.  Bought a weaver scope base for it, and stole rings and a scope off my H&R.  Cheep Simmons 2.5x10 50 that will be there until I can afford better glass on the Encore.  Worked fine on a handi rifle in 223, hope it last long enough on the WM to be able to go back to the H&R.  I checked the eye relief and it's about two inches on the lowest setting.  It does at least have a rubber ring around the eye piece to soften impact.   Is the aluminum base going to hold up?  I think I'd rather have a steel weaver base if they are made, and steel rings.  I'll look into this when I get a new scope.
  TC Encore with the heavy barrel has awesome balance! I was almost put off buying a heavy barrel thinking it would balance like my Savage, Remington bolt guns with heavy barrels.  Not even close.   The gun is just NOT heavy in the least.   This is going to carry and shoot off hand great.  I can't wait to get this thing out to the range.
  Checking to see if my reloads would chamber I noticed that the shell doesn't get ejected.  This is the one thing I have not liked so far.  Won't be a problem at the range, but in the field I'd rather have the empty clear the gun when I open that action.  One less step in getting this single shot reloaded. 

[B2crawler]

Encore went to the range yesterday.  Started out on the 50 yard range to get on paper then moved out to 100 yards.  Very very impressed.  First three shot group was about 3 inches.
Let the gun and myself have a few minutes and then shot a three shot group just under 1 inch out side to outside of bullet holes.  Again let the gun cool and fired another group that was under one inch.  The kicker is that this was using 180 grain core lock rem bullets that I haven't had shoot well in four other 30 cal rifles that  I own.  What's it going to do with some premium bullets is what I want to know now.
As far as the recoil that I was worried about....it's not there.  Shooting with a Simmons scope with 2 inches of eye relief off the bench and never got touched.  In fact I'd have to say my remington sendero 300wm  has worse felt recoil.  When I take it out and shoot a box of shells I'll feel a little sore and have slight brusing.  I've got nothing from the encore at all.  I'll buy a sims pad for my shot gun before I do my encore ha!!

[youthpastorjon]

If only I had a 28" barrel 22-250 pastorjohn.  If I could just find that at a good deal I'd surly take a couple boxes of my reloads out to test that trigger.  haha
Really though did you sell that barrel?

What?  I took it Coyote hunting yesterday.  WHy do you ask?

[B2crawler]

Ok went to the range for the second time with the Encore and can say I got sore before I went through the 20 rounds I had brought.  I mean I could have fired them, but wouldn't have gotten the best groups.  I must have been on cloud nine with excitement the first time out.  Shot the gun a few times off hand also.  Was able to hit clay pigeons at 100 yds.  Don't know  if it had to be a direct hit to break them since they were laying on the dirt berm, but close enough.  So I can say with a little more experince with my 300 mag is that it kicks and I wouldn't want to shoot it all day off the bench.  It's not punishing unless you want to put a lot of rounds down range.