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Remington managed recoil slug question?
« on: March 21, 2008, 06:49:15 AM »
Hello Fellows. I hope this Good Friday is finding you all well. I have a question about these rifled slugs. Has any of you tried these in your 12ga. If so what kind of performance did you get? And also, just how much was the felt recoil reduced? Remington says the recoil is cut by 45%. Any information is appreciated. Thank you and have a good evening. scout4<><

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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 08:42:20 AM »
and another question to any who may have shot them, any idea how much lower they print on the target at 50 yards than regular Remington Sluggers? I have an application where I would be very happy if someone told me they printed 6" to 8" or so lower at fifty yards than regular 12 gauge Remington Sluggers with the same point of aim....<><....:)
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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 09:43:56 AM »
I used them for about 3 yrs in my Rem Model 11 auto loader . I would not say 45% but ar least 30-40% felt recoil. Might be a little hard for me to judge cause when I switched to them I also cut 8" off the barrel. In three yrs killing several deer I noticed no differance in performance was not a long range gun and most shots were to maybe 40 -70 yards max. Dead was dead. Sorry Andy but I found that mine printed a little over 2 1/2" lower at 50 yards and the red dot that I used was zeroed at 50 and I didn't even adjust my scope the 1st yr I shot them. This was in a 18"cyl bore . I still got about 100 rounds of it. Might end up using some of it in my newTracker I if this new 20ga ULSH don't get made. Kurt
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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 12:48:23 PM »
Thanks for the reply and the info Kurt....<><....:)
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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 02:17:12 PM »
Thank You Kurt! I appreciate all your information. I'm trying to work my way back into an heavier gauge gun. I have not shot a heavy ga. in a very long time, but physical therapy and a good attitude can do wonders! Thanks again! scout4<><

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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 03:56:47 PM »
I got to tell ya when I switched this yr to 20ga USH from yrs of 12ga I was surprised at how much it kicked at least as much as the 12ga managed recoil and I have never shot (Hunted) with 3" or magnums overkill and to much kick for me. Kurt
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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 06:53:43 AM »
My experience with Remington's managed-recoil sluggers was similar to PHATINJUN's.  Their point of impact at 50 yards was only slightly lower than the regular sluggers.  Since I was using them in my old Remington 11-48 (smooth-bore, bead-sight), the change in POI was insignificant, and I didn't "aim" any differently with them.  Recoil was noticeably lighter, but I wouldn't know how to put a number on it.  Unfortunately, they were less accurate than the regular sluggers.  That gun will put the regulars in a 4" ring at 50 yards, whereas the managed recoil sluggers shot a 7" group.  Federal's low-recoil TruBalls were even worse.  The only low-recoil slug that equaled the performance of regular sluggers out of that gun was the Brenneke THD, which typically produced 3" groups.  That gun could take deer at 50 yards, but I never trusted it much beyond 50.  Somewhere between 50 and 70 yards the groups opened up severely, so that I couldn't confine them to an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of target paper.  I speculated that at some point beyond 50 yards the slugs began to tumble and fly erratically.  I've since switched to a 44 magnum handirifle (legal in Indiana) and can confidently take shots out to 100 yards. 

Regarding the relative recoil of 20 gauge slugs, don't disregard the influence of gun weight.  Many 20 ga guns are lighter than their 12 ga counterparts, and that can make a big difference.  My very first shotgun as a kid was a 20ga break-open Stevens single shot.  I loved that gun for its "light weight and light recoil".  I never took a deer with that gun, but I shot a lot of slugs through it intending to.  Later, when I inherited my dad's 12 ga 11-48 semiauto, I was shocked at how mild its recoil was compared to my old 20 ga single shot.  I realized that I had spent my youth pounding myself silly with that "light shooter".  I often think about that when recommending shotguns for beginning shooters.  I think a semiauto with a youth stock is the way to go. 

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Re: Remington managed recoil slug question?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 07:26:57 AM »
Thanks murphdog for your information. I do appreciate all you guy's input on this. Getting an education on all such things makes a difference when your splitting hairs because of recoil. Was a time when I just picked a gun out of Dad's gun cabinet with a pocket of shells more or less, an went huntin. Anyway,...Thanks again! Have a wonderful Easter Sunday! scout4<><