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Chrono'd my .44 Magnum and 45-70 loads....
« on: July 02, 2008, 09:33:15 AM »
Date of test: June 30, 2008

Wind: 3 mph

Distance to F1 Chrono: 8 feet

Firearm used: Ruger SBH 4 5/8ths .44 Magnum

Table Top Bench Rest was used for support.

Test: 6 rounds were tested of each loading, the F1 Chrony sheet calls for 10 to get the over all average but I only shot 6 of each getting the lowest, and then the highest FPS of each of the loads, I still need to figure the average FPS of these loads tested.

Each load had been digitally weighed on the Frankford Arsenal 700 gr scale.

305-gr WFN GC, 430 dia, CCI #300 LPP with positive crimp

20.0 gr of H110

1) 1239 fps
2) 1214 fps L
3) 1239 fps
4) 1222 fps
5) 1234 fps
6) 1250 fps H

SD: .24
Load: 20.0 gr H110
Avg FPS: 1233
TKV: 23.05
ME: 1029.42 Ft/Lbs

21.0 gr of H110

1) 1298 fps H
2) 1273 fps L
3) 1288 fps
4) 1282 fps
5) 1297 fps
6) 1290 fps

SD: .24
Load: 21.0 gr H110
avg is 1288 fps
TKV 24.08
ME: 1123.31

Firearm Used: Marlin 1895G

I also shot 4 rounds of 45-70 using a 430-gr WFN GC, .4585 dia, Federal LMRP with positive crimp.

46.0 gr of IMR 3031

1) 1700 fps L
2) 1703 fps
3) 1714 fps
4) 1725 fps H

SD: .29
Load: 46.0 gr IMR 3031
Avg FPS: 1710.5
TKV: 48.12
ME: 2793.08 Ft/Lbs


As you can see one or two extra Kernels of powder can cause deviation even using a digital scale. With the .44 Magnum loadings I believe that 20.0 gr of H110 is plenty, and showed pretty much what I expected with lower FPS. 21.0 gr of H110 powder gives good FPS behind that 305-gr WFN GC Rim Rock Bullet, and with the 430-gr WFN GC for the 45-70 the FPS obtained is plenty to take down the biggest of our Montana critters.

 

Looks like either can kill anything MT throws at me!

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Re: Chrono'd my .44 Magnum and 45-70 loads....
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 10:47:27 AM »
It really isn't the number of kernals of powder that gives your velocity variation.  Identical weights of powder can still give large ES readings.  This is due to the variable nature of how powder burns - the shape of the pile of powder in the case and the shape of the mass of powder moving forward as it burns.  Even compressed loads have variation because of the shape of the mass of powder moving.    Yet, some powders can give low ES values even with a measureable spread in powder weights case to case.  Think of it as a combination of a variable shaped charge combined with chaos theory.



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Re: Chrono'd my .44 Magnum and 45-70 loads....
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 03:34:13 PM »
Lonestar

Thanks, I was kinda thinking that as well, but you helped clear that up.

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Re: Chrono'd my .44 Magnum and 45-70 loads....
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 03:54:05 PM »
I'm really surprised that the 45.70 is getting that kink of velocity using that load.

I haven't chronographed mine yet, but I'm loading a 300 grain remington in front of 57 grains of 3031.  I'm thinking this load will be in the 1950 fps range?  Maybe next range trip I'll take the 45.70.......

I'm kind of liking the chronograph....

Thanks for the data!
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Re: Chrono'd my .44 Magnum and 45-70 loads....
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 04:50:59 PM »
I'm really surprised that the 45.70 is getting that kink of velocity using that load.

I haven't chronographed mine yet, but I'm loading a 300 grain remington in front of 57 grains of 3031.  I'm thinking this load will be in the 1950 fps range?  Maybe next range trip I'll take the 45.70.......

I'm kind of liking the chronograph....

Thanks for the data!

I was actually surprized myself but the Chronograph doesn't lie, but maybe its the Federal Large Rifle Magnum Primer.  I don't know either but the load is a nice shooting load.

Just wish I could have recovered one of the bullets after the session.