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Offline JJHACK

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I've been working in South Africa since I moved back to the states 16 almost 17 years ago now. I flew in 1990 for about 800 bucks round trip on NWA through Amsterdam. I remember in about 1997 the cost was 1200 bucks. My then package hunt for 10 days and 5 animals was 5100 USD.

In 2006 the price for me to get there went to $1400.00, almost double the cost of the 1990 trip. Granted there is a 16 year span to double the price. However my 9 day 4 animal hunt was still only $4800 USD. Not even close to double, actually a very small change in that same time.

In 2007 the flight went to $1950.00 The single biggest one year price jump in 16 years. It actually went up by 50% of the cost of a 1990 flight! This past year I was stunned to see it had gone up yet again to almost 2200.00 bucks, the truth is, it was even more when you consider additional baggage, and the 50lb baggage weight limit costs.

The price of the 9 day 3 animal safari was $4800 USD. When you look at the costs here you can see that we are quickly getting to a point where the airfare will be closing the gap with the actual safari cost. I have spoken to several airline people now and the thought is that the trip over to RSA with my flight connections will be over 3000 bucks possibly in the next year or two. The bigger concern is that the amount of flights over will get reduced to every other day on some airlines and maybe once or twice a week for others. They will not stay in business with empty seats on the flight. They feel with the cost increase the number of travelers will be reduced, so the number of flights must be reduced. The ability to get a seat will be harder, and the schedules far more difficult. Especially during the popular May June time frame.

I guess what I'm saying here is, if you think for one minute that you're going to try and save up some money to hunt in 2011 or 2012 think again! I doubt you will put the money away at the rate the airline price increase will happen, and even if you can manage it. Will we still have the chance to fly 1/2 way around the world to hunt the way we can now? Also consider what will the costs be to ship trophies back?

The Safari business is alive and well, actually thriving right now. With fewer hunters coming in the future due to the airfare cost, there will be a lot of Safari operations folding, or combining efforts to stay in business. In time the costs to attract hunters will drop, and so will the quality. You cannot manage high quality for low price very long without something breaking.

There are only three basic elements in any business/sale.
Price
service
quality/time to deliver

Anytime you pick one over the other two those are going to suffer. When you base the trip on price, quality and service suffer, if you base the trip on quality the price jumps up.

In the case of the airlines and any strongly fuel based business price goes up and quality goes down! With the Safari operations using Diesel at about 7 bucks a gallon in RSA now, the trip to get hunters from the airport is now a very significant expense. If you think that the Safari industry will have to get more competitive to compensate for the expense your somewhat mistaken. One industry cannot cover the cost for another. Making the safari cheaper because the airfare is so high is not going to happen. At least not for any safari business that wants to stay functional for the future. There are costs invoved with running a quality operation, these don't change just because the airfare has gone through the roof!

In conclusion, if you dream of doing a plains game hunt in your life, it's not going to get less expensive for the trip as a whole. The airfare and even the ability to get a seat when you want is going to get difficult in the next few years. By 2012 I would guess that the amount of hunters going to RSA from the USA will be 1/2 of what it has been in the past. By 2012 the cost of airfare will exceed the basic package cost of a plains game safari. Add to that you may not even be able to bring your guns with the airline weight limits headed our way.

This is not an attempt to generate fear, uncertainty, and doubt, or bookings for me or anyone else. It's simply the truth about what to expect. The simple and affordable plains game safari is quickly being put out of reach with the travel costs.
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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 10:04:21 AM »
Well, I'm planning on Namibia or Zimbabwe in 2011 since that's probably the soonest I can hope for another spousal pass.  Hopefully I'll have the frequent flyer miles available so airfare won't cost me much.  If the air fare were $3,000, I would probably find some other place to hunt.

It's true that you have to pay for quality.  There are, however, some things that may be a bit overpriced.  Take elephant hunting for instance.  Considering that there are places being overrun with elephant to the point where they have to be culled, I fail to see why they should cost so much to hunt.  Why should the daily fee be $800 to $1,000 per day to hunt elephant and $350 per day to hunt plains game?  Does it really cost the operator that much more to hunt elephant?

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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 10:20:10 AM »
Supply and demand is the DG cost structure. Daily fee's in Tanzania are 1200-2000 bucks a day, some in Botswana even more. When somebody offers a 250 bucks a day DG fee other will compete. It's not happening so I guess the Supply demand ratio is working in that respect. One other issue is that a Plains game PH can be paid much less the a fella risking his life. Although truth be told I have had more charges and near miss situations with PG then all the DG I've hunted combined. Maybe we pay more attention with DG, maybe we take PG a bit more for granted? I don't know, but many PG speices should not be taken lightly!

You will pay well over 3000 bucks for the airline ticket in 2011, we will be paying close to 3000 in the next year or two without question. FF miles will become a thing of the past. I have a bit over 300,000 gold medallion miles on Delta right now. I needed three tickets to Miami this  December. I called to book them this past Feb. I was told the seats for FF miles were already booked. So I asked about different dates and flights, the reply was all the FF seats are gone through the summer, there are no flights available with FF miles. I have tried to use them the last five years for a ticket to RSA on both Delta/SAA- United/SAA- and last year and this year Delta the whole way. Every time they had no FF seats remaining.

Upgrades are no problem, but a free economy class/business class ticket,...... well...  not that I know of. One of my hunters flew BA with his miles, maybe BA is the way to go?
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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 12:26:54 PM »
Jim,

I do not for a moment question your cost projection, and I think it will hurt business. However, considering I will probably spend 700 - 800 dollars on fuel for trips to the deer lease this year, and airfare to other hunting destinations are also rising people will have to decide if they really want to hunt. I have already made some adjustments to somewhat compensate for the higher costs. I told the wife she would have to tighten her belt and contribute towards the utilities.  ;D

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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 06:28:58 PM »
I normally do not post here, Africa is just out of reach for me. Plus I live in Alaska's interior so hunting is good out my back door. I thought I would voice an opinion.
  If a person hunting in Africa can afford to spend $5000.00 or $6000.00 on a PG hunt they are more than likely retired, own their own house,car is paid for, kids are out of the house. So their cash flow should be pretty good. If I am correct on this then an increase of 50% to even 100% should still be doable. For the person that is trying to save $100.00 or $200.00 a month for 10 years to afford to hunt Africa they will never make it. Which is to bad for the average person.

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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 07:40:59 PM »
The guys hunting with me are not even close to retired and are not "rich" the great majority are between 35 and 60 and work for a living. Teachers, tradesmen, cops, firemen etc. Pure middle class all the way. I've had my share of above average clients in the 430 I have taken now, but by and large they are working class middle class folks.
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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 03:00:28 AM »
If a person hunting in Africa can afford to spend $5000.00 or $6000.00 on a PG hunt they are more than likely retired, own their own house,car is paid for, kids are out of the house. So their cash flow should be pretty good. If I am correct on this then an increase of 50% to even 100% should still be doable. For the person that is trying to save $100.00 or $200.00 a month for 10 years to afford to hunt Africa they will never make it. Which is to bad for the average person.

What is really bad for the average person is Alaska.  I would pay quite a bit more to go to Alaska to shoot a single bear, goat or moose that my recent trip to South Africa where I collected 14 animals.  Of course deer hunting in Alaska is more affordable but I can also hunt deer in Ohio.

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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 08:34:48 AM »
Since you can't bring back any of the meat( I presume) what is done with it?
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Re: Future of affordable hunting in Africa with the high cost of airfare
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2008, 08:47:40 AM »
It's owned by the local, tribe, village, Landowner, park, etc. They are free to do with it what they like.  Part of the trophy fee cost to the hunter is based in the profit of the sale of the meat in some cases.

One landowner may sell an impala for 250 bucks to the hunter, and he makes another 25 bucks for the meat. So he gets 275 bucks for the impala. outfitter sells the Impala for 275 but must leave the meat with the landowner as he cannot transport meat around to other hunting locations for days while the hunter is still after other species.

Lots of combinations can occur. It's not really a relevent issue in the grand scheme of the hunt, becuase meat cannot come back into the USA anyway. The trophy fee is for the trophy only, not the meat, it's why it's called a "trophy fee". People hunting for meat are called "biltong hunters" not trophy hunters.  Odd by NA standards, but then paying for trophy fees as you shoot them is odd by North American standards as well. In NA you must by the tags before you hunt, and may never even see the animal you're after, no refunds or exchange. Pay first hope for the best. In Africa you pay after you shoot.
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