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Offline petemi

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I am ticked off
« on: July 09, 2008, 06:43:23 AM »
I am ticked off this morning.  I just got done working with my stainless '06 last evening.  After working with 3 or 4 factory loads and finding out it liked 180 gr. Federals best,  I put my last shot last evening 1/4 inch from dead center 10X at a hundred.  This morning, I went down to let the horses out and there was a deer behind the barn.  I picked up the '06 to see if the deer was growing antlers, and I felt something loose.  The factory installed scope rail had shot loose.  I marked everything, took it apart, Loc-tited everything and put it back together.  First shot at 100 missed everything including the 3 x 4 ft. target back board!!  50 bucks worth of ammo down the drain and time to start over.  At least I know what the rifle likes, so it's back to the bore sighter.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 07:02:33 AM »
A bit of information that comes to late....I learned over the years never trust a scope/base that you didn't mount yourself....

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 07:14:53 AM »
Amen, Brother.  I'll file that one away for future use.  Thank You.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 09:24:44 AM »
I'm a mostly un-ticked now.  Got the '06 back on paper with my last two rounds.  More ammo is coming tomorrow, and we'll finish it off.  Thanks to Jim Hamilton who furnished all the parts, the 7mm-08 is finished.  Just shot 1/2 MOA in a 20 -25 mph WNW quartering wind.  It's the same wind we hunt in all the time.  That made me real happy!
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 09:34:30 AM »
Sorry to hear that Pete, but STUMPJMPR's advice is good, I do the same but using the info in the FAQs, just did the SS 45-70 as a matter of fact.  ;)

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 01:42:45 PM »
Ditto what STUMPJMPR said!

Hopefully your groups will be even better now that your base is secured.

GOOD SHOOTING!
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 01:57:42 PM »
A bit of information that comes to late....I learned over the years never trust a scope/base that you didn't mount yourself....

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 07:11:02 AM »
50 bucks of ammo???? damn dude , here's a hint always bore sight and always start at 10 yards to hit paper then move out you'll save a lot of ammo there is no reason you can't zero in 10 shots if your shooting the load your rifle likes
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 10:47:39 AM »
That's what I normally do, but I was shooting four kinds of ammo to see what it liked best that's why I went through a bunch.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 03:34:33 AM »
I can sight a rifle in with less than 6 shots without a boresight.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 02:11:18 PM »
I had the same thing happen to me with a .44 magnum handi-rifle.  I had it all sighted in and noticed when I was cleaning it that the scope felt a bit loose.   After looking @ it, the base had shot loose and I got to take it all apart and loctite the base. 

I haven't made it back to the range yet to resight it in, but I too, definetly learned a lesson.  I wonder why they don't loctite the base @ the factory?  Wish they did.

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 03:57:34 PM »
Mr. petemi , try this when sighting your new scope, It will save you some ammo.
 1. use sand bags or gun vise to secure your rifle.
 2.put your cross hairs exactly on the target where you want it to shoot.
 3. shoot at the target. make sure that  you can find where the hits. ( use plenty of paper).
 4. put the cross hairs back at the same exact place as your first shot was aiming. make sure that your bags and rifle are stable.
 5. now adjust your scope (windage and higth) to where your 1rst. went .
 your rile and scope should be pretty well shooting where you want it . this saves me a lot of ammo. and should do the same for you.
this a trick that an old reloader shared with me and seems to work on every rifle that I have ever changed a scope on.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 05:50:56 PM »
Fifty bucks worth of ammo???

Hey pal, that's as prime a reason to take up reloading as any I've ever heard.

Like they've said already. Start up close to get an idea, then gradually increase the range a shot or two at a time.

Though it sounds like you figured it out now.

Good luck with the fixin's.

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 11:18:28 PM »
Since I now know it likes 180 Federals best, I got it back with just 4 shots yesterday morning.  Zeroed the .22-250 to 200 yards and the .357 to 100.  They're ready for coyotes opening Tuesday.
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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 02:34:38 AM »
That happen to me with my encore 3006 it was the mount.

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 11:51:52 AM »
What I like to do to save ammo is zero at 10yards, however for most rifles shooting at or over 2600fps have it shoot 1" low at 10yards (assuming your LOS is 1.5" above the bore and you'll be VERY close to your zero at 100yards.  Assuming you do your part behind the rifle you should be able to zero with a 3 shot group at 100yards in 10 rounds or less.  Now that's the "I don't want to use a whole box of ammo" method.  The fewest rounds I've used to zero is 5.  And I had (at the time) a vise to hold the rifle steady in.  So I shot a round at 10, reset the rifle on my aiming point, and adjusted the sites to the impact.  Moved to 100 did the same thing (only needed a couple clicks if I remember correctly....been a whle) and fired 1 3 shot group.

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Re: I am ticked off
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 12:15:48 PM »
Confusus say it better to be pi$$ed off than pi$$ed on :o ;D ;D

Glad you figured it all out.  I know what you mean on the ammo, ran through 2 boxes of factory 308 Win, and barnes TSX 150's, for a Savage bolt gun, only to discover it really hates that bullet.

 >:( >:(  Those were $42 a BOX
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