I picked up the 12 ga. at a pawn shop, used, and in nice shape for around $80. I might just go for lower powered shells, like the Aguila, if I didn't want as much recoil, though I do have a recoil pad on the butt. I was able to handle the 20 ga. OK, and might have gotten one, had I seen one. Problem is, money is tight now, and may be for a while longer. I see the barrels are around $42 from H&R, but read they are having delays due to the factory closing at Gardner.