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New to forum - Why I kill things
« on: July 06, 2007, 11:06:33 AM »
Thought I'd say hi and introduce myself with a short reply to comments from several of my non-hunting friends.  I'll look forward to reading the posts and contributing on occassion.  I thought I'd post here since my main hunting passion is upland birds.

Why Do I Kill Things
by Karl DeHart

Non-hunters just don’t get it! I’m constantly asked the question, “Why do you like killing things?” That is all the people who ask that question see when they look at a hunter, someone who kills things. Anymore, my initial internal reaction is just a big sigh. How do you explain something that needs to be experienced to truly understand it? My second reaction is the comment that “the kill” is my least favorite part of hunting. If I just wanted to kill things I wouldn’t spend so much time, so much money, and so much energy to do it. I would just go to a game bird breeder, put the birds on the ground in the yard and shoot them. That isn’t what hunting is about. I'm not bashing non-hunters, some of my closest friends do not hunt and do not fully understand my passion for upland bird hunting.

So what is it about? Well, there sure isn’t one answer to that question because hunters are all different. For me, hunting is about many things and the list would be a whole page in itself. I recently missed a completely doable shot at a spike elk at 250 yards in the meadow out my front door and for the entire day at work I couldn’t relax! I was wired, totally wired for the whole day because of a 10-minute episode that transpired just after I walked to my truck to go to work that morning. Hunting is about the rush, admiring the upland game birds, the smell of the woods, being out in beautiful places, not being surrounded by beeping cell phones, working your dog, laughing with a hunting buddy, putting organic meat in the freezer and the unique experiences of each hunt. Each hunter can add dozens of things to this list.

Every hunting trip is an adventure and creates a memory. I rarely hunt without seeing something that becomes etched in my mind for the next few months or years and most times it has nothing to do with killing something. I love to see my dog point, especially downhill. She crouches low for some reason. This crouched point is my favorite as it seems to me when she points in this fashion she is the most serious about what is upwind of her. I just sent Devon to hunt my favorite chukar spot, I figured he would come out with 4-8 birds, nothing, he didn’t see anything and that has me as wired as missing the elk, “Why weren’t the birds there!” I am just finishing last year’s elk. When I cook up each steak I still picture the hunt and then dragging the elk down the mountain to my house with my dog pulling on the ear uphill, like a big tug-toy. The ear was completely frayed by the time I got to the house. I watched a goshawk catch and carry off a squirrel that was screaming at me. As my dear friend Glenda put it, I have a relationship with the animals that I harvest.

Hunting keeps me healthy; mentally, emotionally and physically. I was asked since I am so active why I don’t take the stairs at my work; I ride the elevator to the fifth floor each day. My answer is in the five months of Idaho's bird season I walk uphill more than most people do in years! Even I need a break. Most people have something in their lives they get lost in, mentally I mean. You focus, get in the zone and forget about the troubles of the world. These are the times I’m not worried about the bills or the relationships in my life. I’m hunting and that is all I’m doing, well besides enjoying watching the all the other interesting things I see while I’m out.
Karl DeHart
UplandIdaho.com

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2007, 06:39:55 AM »
All my friends are members of my Rod and Gun clubs, therefore I seldom get that question. When I do get the question I tell them, "Every so often I need to kill something to maintain my sanity". I get some interesting expressions and comments from this.
Hunting and fishing are not matters of life or death. They are much more important than that.

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2007, 03:44:53 PM »
I almost didn't bother to read this post because of the title, but I did.
Welcome to GBO.
I share your feelings, but I stay with the big sigh, they don't (won't) understand and that's ok.
Hunters know.
Non hunters don't care (as long as we don't push them to the other side).
Anti's will never understand.
The majority of folks are non hunters, they will only go one other direction, our job is to keep them non hunters.

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Hunt hard, shoot fast and trust your dog.

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2007, 10:10:08 AM »
Welcome aboard!

Your reasons more or less sum up my thoughts, with heavy emphasis on admiring a hard working bird dog. There's nothing quite like a dog working out a running pheasant. I've had 2 Springer Spaniels, and one Black Lab, and recently got a Brittany pup that I'm looking forward to admiring this Fall and many Falls to come.

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2007, 10:46:40 AM »
WELCOME!!   An extremely well written ...ah....introduction.  My thoughts 'zactly.  As I read it I wondered what a person who writes that well does for a living.  This is NOT meant to be a nosey question.  I just wondered.  It was a very good response to "the question".
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2007, 01:27:27 PM »
Thanks for the positive comments...

There isn't much out there that tops a good day in the field watching one of your pups do something that amazes you.  As far as a living...I work like everyone else in a "real" job but I'm also trying to get my own Upland Online Magazine off the ground...uplandidaho.com.  I'm just a regular fella like most, having fun chasing my passions in life.

Happy Hunting,

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 08:15:56 PM »
We kill surplus animals because they aren't sold in the grocery store.
I like Ted Nugents take on this topic. It isn't necessary  for the butchers of America to do
all of the harvesting. Many folks eat steak and chicken, Thanksgiving Turkey ect., but they
 pay money for others involved to do the killing of a particular animal for them.
Hunters as a group tend to be more self sufficient and wildlife friendly as others claiming to
help wild animal efforts. We actually increase the herds and quality of the species.
Upland hunting here in Oklahoma, I have never met a hunter that will pursue a quail covey
till they are all gone. We leave plenty of birds for next year. Many late season hunts have ended
with words instead of popping caps because of only 6 or 8 birds in a covey.
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 03:27:39 PM »
Why do I kill things? Ya mean if I'm talking to an anti? well I guess I just like to hear the smack of a bullet against some good solid flesh! ;D
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 04:42:20 PM »
'cuz I'm hungry
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 03:18:01 AM »
'cuz it creates an association of the inner self to the raw power of the  natural order thereby strengthening our relationship with our higher power.
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2007, 03:02:29 PM »
It's in my DNA. Can't help myself.
I've shot many a sassy bandit with just my pistol!

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 05:10:13 PM »
Killing not only fills a primal urge within me, but it also fills my belly. I'm certain that hunting and killing is something that is in the instinct of man. My three favorite and most enjoyable things in life are hunting, procreating and eating. I am sure since the dawn of manhood this has been a common bond between us.
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2007, 04:20:27 PM »
Hunting and fishing have been a family tradition for the last 5000 years.  I can't help myself.  Apparently the anti hunting folks can't help themselves either.
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2008, 11:30:50 AM »
I eat. Therefore I kill. Good thread, yes, hunting skill, nature, emotional wellbeing, solitude, good dog companion, exercise, much more. But essentially, I prefer wild game meat, and wouldn't hunt if I didn't eat game.

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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2008, 12:11:35 PM »
If you identify with this philosophy of hunting put forth by Upland Idaho, anyone who still reads books would enjoy this one:
I Don't Want to Shoot an Elephant
by Author: Havilah Babcock

I read it as a teen and made the book available to my kids.  It's a good one. and very similar in direction to the original post on this thread.
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Re: New to forum - Why I kill things
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2008, 02:14:14 PM »
Very good "introduction". For me the answer is: Because I have to.