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Offline paramedic12

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.45 cal. bullets?
« on: July 29, 2003, 04:39:00 PM »
I recently bought a .45 cal. after many years of shooting  a .50 cal.
I am looking foe suggestions as to what type and weight bullets others are using for whitetails. Has anyone had problems with the lighter weight
...195 gr. power belts/ 180 gr, xtp's making clean kills?

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2003, 07:53:14 PM »
I used the 195 gr. PB's last year and shot a doe about 45 yards away and she dropped like a bag of hammers. But then I found out that the barrel I had had a 1:20 twist in it and I sent it back to t/c and they sent me another one with a 1:28 twist. I haven't shot it yet. Now t/c told me that I should shoot 180gr.Mag Sabots with a 100 grs. of pyrodex (two pellets). I will try them but I hope that it will shoot the powerbelts. We will see.
One other thing they said to field clean after each shot and DO NOT USE ANY BORE BUTTER.

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2003, 09:08:58 AM »
I have bought some 180 gr. xtp mag. sabots, and 195 gr. power belts but havnt tried any  in the gun yet. I can see not using bore butter with power belts but why would they tell you not to use it with mag sabots?

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2003, 10:59:37 AM »
I have used both 180 and 200gr XTP with 120gr 777 in my Encore and they work great on avg. size deer.  The 200's are a little more accurate in my 20" twist barrel. ~1.25"@100yds
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2003, 11:45:28 AM »
Paremedic12, what gun and twist is your barrel, this will make a difference. I shoot an encore with the 1 in 20 twist, and got decent results (sometimes 1 1/2 in groups) with a 175 gr. knight red hot over a couple of pellets, but I too have sent my barrel to T/C for a replacement. The 1 in 28 barrels are supposed to be alot easier to tune. I am sure someone with alot more experience will come along and help you more than I can :lol:

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2003, 12:50:24 PM »
I bought the Optima Pro,1 in 28 twist with a 29" barrel. Thinking maybe the longer barrel will burn powder better?

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2003, 12:51:01 AM »
I'm still back in the good old days with a 56 inch turn and homemade balls and bullets. I get 1975 fps with a .45  225 gr. REAL lubed with sheep tallow ahead of 100 grains of real black powder and nothing ever walked away yet. Anything less than 200 pounds I just use a round ball on 70 grains and get no arguments back on that, either. :shock:
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2003, 07:33:54 PM »
Well when I first started muzzel loading I was told that 90grs. would be sufficant and that is all I have ever used. I don't think that when you put 150 grs of powder down the barrel that its going to burn it all. I just don't believe it. Now this is just my little old oppion and thats all. I have gotten very good accuracy and penatration from this load so I guess I will still try it.

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2003, 11:50:29 PM »
I use fffg. If I fire with the muzzle over a clean, hard surface there is almost no unburnt powder residue, so it seems to be burning well. I was told to always use ffg, but for my rifle that was not the best. This rifle has been in constant use since I built it in 1981,  was proofed with fffg when I made the breech plug and cut the threads for it.  I don't expect it would burn 150 grains either, but where did that number come from anyway?
I wish I had access to a chronograph, which is the sure best way. Only way I ever had was fire over something and look for unburnt ejecta, and fire in dark and look for excess sparks in flame.  My velocity figure came from a chart, so it is approximate. I get good penetration and expansion and great knockdown.
   I was really just teasing some of you about modern stuff, and am sorry if I came off as being mean spirited or something. I have no problem with sabot loads and short fast twist barrels.  I am just stuck in 19th century and like it there.   :D
   I just finished restoring a "Poor Boy" with a 44 inch barrel, not as a shooter, unfortunately, the bore was heavily pitted.  I didn't weigh a charge from the old measure with it, but it impressed me as holding a heavy charge for the .43 bore. I did measure the pitch at one in 66 inches. I expect 44 inches of bore would burn powder O.K.
    Target load for my .45 is 50 grains fffg. for best accuracy with RB, but this is not hot enough for clean kills on deer.
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