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Offline Jeff Vicars

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« on: August 01, 2003, 06:04:56 PM »
Anyone loading the 275 grain XPB in the 480 Ruger?

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2003, 04:06:56 AM »
Not me. Just seems to me to be the antithesis of what the round is all about. If you want a light bullet and high speed why select the .480? It is all about a large fat heavy bullet at moderate speeds. I use bullets in the 400-430 grain range mostly.

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2003, 11:43:54 AM »
what greybeard said and ill add that it should be lead not copper
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2003, 10:36:38 PM »
I have not used the .475 XPB, however I have used the 45 and 50 with much sucess. I have killed scores of feral hogs with these bullets, all with complete pass thru and evidence of massive expansion. The only bullet I have recovered was a 250 grain X. It was shot from a FA 454 Casull into a Sika buck. A Texas heart shot, hit 1" above "bullseye", went through almost 6" of spine and ended up under the hide of the brisket. The bullet measure slightly over 1.1" and weighted virtually the same as before it was shot.
The 275 grain .475 XPB is about the same length as the 400 grain Speer, giving it about the same Sectional Density. Comparing the 275 grain XPB at about 1500 fps to a 400 grain cast going about 1200 fps yields similar momentum and about 100 foot pounds more of kinetic energy. Enough momentun to penetrate completely on broadside and quartering shots.
    The meplat of a cast bullet directs the energy away from the direction the bullet is traveling in an animal. The larger the meplat and the faster the bullet the more permanent wound channel damage that is done. The meplat of some better 400 grain plus cast bullets measure .350, a Barnes XPB that has expanded to 1.1" has a effective meplat of 1.1", nearly 10 times the surface area. Even if the XPB fails to expand at all, you will still have a .475 bullet with a high sectional density, a huge hollow point that will act as a meplat and a hole all the way though the animal.
      Penetration of bullets of the same construction is controlled by momentum and sectional density.
      Shot animals die as a result of the Central Nervous System shutting down, either as a direct hit to the spine or brain, or the loss of blood carrying oxygen to the brain.
      Kinetic energy is the force that expands bullets. The bullets do the work of killing.
      Cast bullets that completely penetrate kill Big Game, but a premium jacketed or X bullet that expands and completely penetrates kills quicker.
      I think that people that only use cast bullets to hunt with will agree that the larger the hole(bullet diameter) through the animal the better.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2003, 01:21:15 AM »
The 275 gr 475 cal has a sectional density of .174 and a momemtum of 58.9 pounds feet momemtum at 1500 fps and the 400 gr has a sectional density of .253 and a momemtum of 68.6 pounds feet momemtum at 1200 fps.
Sectional density has to do with weight in relationship to the frontal area of the bullet not neccesarily with bullet length.  Bullet weight in pounds divided by the diameter squared.
The momemtum is bullet weight times velocity divided by 7000.
I found these numbers using the basic mathematics I learned in grade school.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2003, 09:57:35 AM »
Meplat, you are right about the sectional density, I had a brain fart. The point I was trying to make is if a bullet exits, which is desired, it is better to do so expanded. After the bullet exits, I don't think it matters how much momentum remains to impact the ground.