9 mm Rem bullet & Bullseye load data

[redspud]

I hope someone can steer me in the right direction.  I've been trying to find load data for 9mm Remington 115 grain JHP combined with Bullseye Powder.  I can find volumes of data for other bullets, but I'm not finding much on Remington's.  I've checked Lyman #48 and many powder manufacturer's manuals.  Is this combination of powder and bullet possibly not worth consideration?

The closest I have found was a reloader in another forum saying that a max charge of 5.0 grains of Bullseye for bullets up to 115 grains.  Obviously, this isn't published data and its not something that I'm willing to bet my welfare on.

Also, instructions that came with my Lee dies make generic references to bullets by weight and type and then provide the recommended starting and max charge for that bullet.  Does say a Hornady  or XYZ 115 JHP and a Remington 115 JHP share enough characteristcs that there is no need to differentiate between brands of bullet?

Just trying to stay safe here and I appreciate input from those in the know.   Thank You   

[Luckyducker]

I don't remember if I ever loaded Remington brand 115 grain JHP bullets but my Bullseye load for both JHP and FMJ 115 grain slugs was 4.8 grains and they were very accurate without any signs of excessive pressure.  I say "was" because I no longer load for a 9MM Luger and before I gave my dies to my S-I-L I had switched over to 6.0 grains of Alliant's PowerPistol powder which made a slightly better load than the Bullseye, as in a little smoother cycling and a pinch better accuracy.  Though honestly both of these loads were very good.

[Dand]

I think you are being a little too cautious really. I'd look at the profile compared to other 9mm bullets, then look at the lower or middle range recommended for Bulls Eye from several manuals for similar profile bullets, pick a low/medium charge and get to loading.  Load a few and try them for accuracy, function and overall performance.

Now, the 9mm (Luger) can be sensitive to bullet seating depth and small powder changes as well as how tightly crimped the bullet is - if you do a taper crimp.

But with a little care, attention to recommended max cartridge length, moderate powder charge you should be fine assuming a modern gun in good shape.

I have a big jar of 9mm Rem bullets but mostly load with Unique and its been so long I can't remember the powder charge.

Have you reviewed the Alliant website?  Seems like they used to use a lot of Rem bullets in their load recommendations.

Good luck and I hope I haven't cross the line on load recommendation guidelines of this forum.

Oh and I shoot the loads in a WW2 P38 a little and mostly in a Taurus knock off of the Beretta 92 with no trouble.

I'll look in my Pet Loads book and see what Ken Waters might recommend too and try to get back.

[Lloyd Smale]

heres the deal. Bullseye is basicaly to fast burning  for a 9mm. If your wanting full powered 9mm loads you should go to a slower powder. Somthing like power pistol or unigue on the slow side to 231 or aa2 on the fast side. Loading to full power with bullseye can be done but you can run into pressure problems easily and it will beat on your gun after a while. Now after saying that im going to admit I use alot of it in a 9mm but i do it in a 1911 that has a very light recoil spring and the load i use is very light. I use this gun for ppc shooting and was looking for light recoil not killing power. Bullseye is a target powder and should be used for target loads not heavy loads.

[Graybeard]

Bullseye and Remington bullets are the ONLY think I reload in 9mm. I don't have my loading log near by but all I did was look up what the manuals say for that bullet weight and use it. Unlike with rifle bullets there really isn't that much difference in any of the various cup and core handgun bullets. I just look in my manuals and pull out the average data for that bullet weight and use it.

[redspud]

Many thanks to those that responded to my question. 

I tried checking the Alliant website and couldn't get the page to load both times I tried.  So, I'm still on my mission.  I understand that there may be better powders, but I have most of a can of Bullseye to use up and wanted to try the Rem 115 grainers while I still had this powder.

I don't really intend to load heavy because Mrs Redspud and other smaller folks like to make a little noise and punch holes at the range now and then too.  We've been putting them through a Stoeger Cougar and I believe this is a very under rated weapon.  From the first time I wrapped digits around it, I felt it could not have been a better fit.  No one that has fondled it has had one negative thing to say about it and after about 500 rounds of mixed brands, profiles and weights, only had one FTE.

Thanks again and if anyone gets their hands of some load data for this powder and bullet, I'd appreciate the intel.   

[Dand]

I checked my records and I have loaded the following - I believe it is within the load ranges of Hornady, Sierra and Speer manuals.

115 Rem bullet, CCI 500 primer, mixed cases or Federal cases,  4.3 to 4.6 gr Bulls Eye.

I show that 4.3 was too light for my taste and I settled on 4.6. NOTE my Hornady Manual (# 5 or 6) lists 4.6 as MAX for their 115 gr bullet.  But I was happy with that load in my guns.

IF you feel like trying it, I'd start at 4.4 and work up.  I did not note seating depth or overall cartridge length but probably loaded to recommended OAL.

hope this is helpful.