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Offline zacharoo

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38 S&W
« on: October 21, 2008, 12:43:52 PM »
What overall length would be best for a 148 gr. wadcutter to be in a 38 S&W for reloading purpose? It is not a hollow base. I don't want to build up to much pressure by putting it flush. I will be using Bullseye powder. What is a good load. I have a 2 inch S&W victory model that has been bored out to 38 special length.     
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Re: 38 S&W
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 01:59:40 PM »
I have never loaded 38 S&W but I have used 148 DeWCs extensively in 38 spl. I like to load them as long as my revolvers chambers will accept. Less bullet jumps and better accuracy. Also lower pressure. In one case I seat them to their halfway point in a 38 Spl case over 2.7gr of Bullseye. They will not chamber in my M10 but when fired from my M581 they are capable of fantastic accuracy. The best 25 yard group I ever fired from a handgun was with that combination.
  So to get back to your question; if you already have the powder charge, I would try to figure out how deeply the bullets need to be seated to chamber and that is where I would seat them.  My old Lyman manual, circa 1970, gives a 150gr cast over 2.0gr of Bullseye for 598 FPS. Your bullets should be lighter than issue Brit .380 rev ammo and you are using an undersized bullet so pressure shouldn't be too mush of an issue so long as you stick to the book.
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Re: 38 S&W
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 05:02:41 PM »
If I recall right, that top grove on a 148gr wadcutter is a crimpimg grove. In the 38 spec I always crimped to it. Classic load for the 148gr wadcutter is 2.5gr Bullseye. I have used it and it is a doozy! I have never messed with seating depth on a handgun. BTW, that load makes a great small game load too.
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Re: 38 S&W
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 10:39:23 PM »
You may have an accuracy problem. If the cylinder chambers have been bored out ( lengthened ) for the .38 special. are you still going to use the shorter .38 s&w brass? If so, you might have a problem with the freebore, due to the longer chambers.
If the barrel is original .38 s&w ( shortened ) it shoots a larger diameter bullet then the .38 special does.
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Re: 38 S&W
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 02:48:12 PM »
Zach,
How many loadings do you get with your .38spl brass before the cases split? I have an old Smith that was originally chambered for .38 S&W for the Austrailan forces in WWll. The cylinder has been bored out to accept the .38 spl. The smaller dia special cases split up the middle, even with powder puff loads. It would probably work better with .38 S&W cases, but I don't consider it a shooter anyway. Someone ruined a piece of history IMO.
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