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Offline glshop20

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Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« on: November 14, 2008, 05:10:06 AM »
Any suggestion for a good/safe sterting load for very old .36cal percussion rifle using patched round balls.  Rifle is very old with no serial # or manufacturer markings.  It has 3 letters stamped on the bottom of the barrel which is very heavy for this cal.  It appears sound with a good bore.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 12:26:04 PM »
First you should have the rifle checked out by a good gunsmith, if you haven't already. A good starting load would be 30gr. of Pyrodex P or real 3f blackpowder. I use Triple 7 3f. but you must reduce the load by 15% since t7 is higher pressure than the others. I shoot a T/C Seneca and a Cabela/ Pedersoli Blue Ridge. Good luck. Beethoven.

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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 12:31:07 PM »
I have a .40...My squirrel load is 25grs FFF Goex...I have shot as much as 60grs in her, but these smaller calibers really don't need that much for squirrels, rabbits and such...As long as she shoots flat out to 30-35 yards, you can kill plenty of squirrels with her...

If you are going after foxes, raccoons or similiar then 40-45grs of FFF Goex would be a plenty...

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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 08:28:43 AM »
Thanks,  for the reply.   I shot her today and I see a lot of promise. I used 35grs of 3x powder and a .350 ball and .10patch.  I unfortunately will have to replace the sights.  They are filed or worn down to nothing.  This making accurate aiming impossible.  WHAT A RIDE TO FIRE AN OLD GUN LIKE THIS WITH CRAP SIGHTS AND STILL GET FAIR RESULTS!!  I gave the barrel a real good cleaning and will be replacing the sights.  I love to shoot old timers that still do well.

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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 04:25:44 AM »
Those sights are probably not "worn down" but were built that way. Our notions of sights have changed a lot over the past couple of centuries, most original muzzleloading rifles had barely visible front sights and just a bit of a scratch for a rear notch. My own first muzzleloader was a heavy barreled half-stock .36 caliber Ohio rifle with a back action percussion lock. The front sight was like a grain of wheat lain on the barrel. At age 15 I could see them well enough but on a warm sunny day with sights so low to the barrel, the heat shimmer made aiming pretty much impossible. Still, that style of sight was the American standard for two centuries or more. I guess the reasoning was "you need fine sights to do fine shooting". We now know that first of all you need sights you can see.
  Your 35 grain load should be giving you around 1600 fps, which is more than plenty for small game and target shooting, I'd be more likely to reduce it than increase it. I would suggest you try some thicker patch material, .010" is pretty flimsy stuff and if the bore has any roughness at all those patches will be shredded.
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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 01:45:12 PM »
I agree with the low sights...The originals that I have examined at Old Salem are also very low...

It's my understanding that they were built that way for woods hunting as hunters tend to shoot high...We have increased the height of sights to help with heat coming off the barrel when we are shooting at the range...

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Re: Good starting load fo .36cal percussion rifle
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 10:39:52 AM »
Get the old girl to a bench and experiment with varying thickness of patch material.  My guess on load would be less than 35 gr.   Usually the patched ball needs to be tight when going down bore to produce tight groups.  I wipe the bore after every shot with a dry patch and can keep on loading and firing all day this way. 
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