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Offline tvc15

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ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« on: July 17, 2008, 10:53:18 AM »
I notice that my groups at 20 yards on the ground are almost equal groups @ 20 yards from the base of a tree, but 20 ft. high. If any difference it may be a bit higher from the tree.

I know the only  way to find out is to shoot from a further distance. But at what distance do you notice a big difference between ground shooting and elevated shooting.

There has to be a point where gravity will show up in a big way.

What is your experience?   TVC15

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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 12:25:00 PM »
I am assuming you mean when will you see a vertical change in impact. You have to think of it in terms of horizontal flight distance not distance to target. Imagine a shot across the street 25yds, now imagine the same shot but you are now on the 80th floor of the Sears tower, still use the 25yd pin, even though flight distance has increased to maybe150yds. The reason being that the arrow is fighting gravity only 25yds still. This example is quite a stretch and may not work out technically but should illustrate the principle. If you are hunting level ground from a 20' elevation you'll never see a reason to change your point of aim. Put that treestand on a hillside and then you may have to account for that. I try to look horizontally to a treetop to get a feel for the true distance. Some people will have problems with form when bending over to make a shot at extreme angles, you must bend at hips to make sure upper body remains unaffected and thus bow remains unaffected, in my opinion this is what causes most accute angle shot problems, not the trajectory. Riflemen in the Rocky Mtn. areas probably need to worry about this more than typical archers do.
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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 01:08:03 PM »
Great Idea about finding trees horizontally for distance.   TVC15

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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 11:44:32 PM »
I try to take all variables out of the shot. I always use a laser range finder and range 360 degrees around the stand at 20, 30 and 40 yards.
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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 06:50:44 PM »
Hello Everyone
     "Empty Quiver" has this question nailed dead on.  His explanation is about as good as can be given.
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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 03:18:22 PM »
This is why it is so nice, to have a range finder that tells you what pin to use because of the elevation.  I have not used a stand in quite some time since I spot and stalk now, but I may try from an elevated platform this year.

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Re: ground shooting vs. stand shooting
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 04:05:19 PM »
I always hunt from a tree,you can see farther,puts your odor above them and as for adjusting for distance I changed to a pendulem sight years ago,Usually deer will be on top of you before you have time to check a range finder,most of the time I just got time to draw back and aim and the pendulem has just one pin good out to 30 yrds.(besides @ 50 i am not as fast as I used to be)
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