Supreme court ruling on Obama's eligibility for presidency

[RonO777]

Supreme court ruling on Obama's eligibility for presidency
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

Supreme Court Of The United States (SCOTUS) Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570 contains the details.

A review of that docket and the Rule 10 of the Supreme Court makes abundantly clear that Justice Souter's granting of a review on the Writ of Certiorari is not a right entitled to citizen Phil Berg, but rather is a matter of judcial discretion based upon a compelling reason. That compelling reason is the Constitutional requirement that "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the office of President..."

What this means is that on or before 1 DECEMBER 2008 Barack Hussein Obama II must respond to the writ of certiorari, and since the Berg v Obama case hinged primarily on the question of Obama's place of birth, it is almost inconceivable that Barack Obama will thumb his nose at the Justices of the Supreme Court and he is absolutely compelled to provide a vault copy his original birth certificate.

Another very salient fact to consider at this time is that, despite all of the pronouncements of the print and broadcast media, Barack Obama is not yet the President-elect of the

United States. Barack Obama can only become the President-elect after the Electoral College convenes on 15 DECEMBER 2008 in their respective state capitals around the nation and casts their votes to elect the President and the Vice President. As you can see this election day occurs two weeks after the required response to the Supreme Court granted Writ of Certiorari.

The bottom line is this: the presidential election of 2008 remains an ongoing process, the outcome of which remains undetermined, and all talk about a potential Constitutional crisis in the United States are at least 36 days premature.

The inevitable constitutional crisis regarding President-elect Obama, of course, revolves around his inability (or unwillingness) to produce an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate with the raised certificate stamp that the Federal Elections Commission can independently verify.

Here are some of the unanswered issues hanging over the head of President-elect Barack Obama and the question of his American citizenship:

· The allegation that Obama was born in Kenya to parents unable to automatically grant him American citizenship;

· The allegation that Obama was made a citizen of Indonesia as a child and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain any theoretical American citizenship;

· The allegation that Obama's birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible, natural-born citizen;

· The allegation that Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child; that Obama may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president.

· The allegations that "Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states." Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."

· The claim could not be verified by inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public;

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama's mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack's American citizenship.
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Ron

[briarpatch]

With 535 willing whores and the clinton hack machine. The man has no worries. This will go nowhere. Anything that could be a problem for this lie, has long since been destroyed. 

[DalesCarpentry]

I sure hope it comes out that he is not a US citizen and can not be president. I wonder what would happen then? Would they hold another election or what? Dale

[TribReady]

You know the SHTF scenarios we all talk about.......

[billy_56081]

I think we can wish in one hand and crap in the other, which one do you think we will have more in.

And TribReady, the shtf scenarios would definitely be in play.

[TribReady]

Seriously, kind of, here's my predicition.  This is totally out-there and I'm basing it on nothing, but if I'm correct, I want you all to know I called it   (this is much like all those crazy predictions out there, you just never know if one will be right)

Anyway, here's my scenario: Obama is deemed unqualified for the presidency. The world, along with alot of the US, adopt him as their leader.  EU, UN, they all love him and want him in charge.  He becomes essentially the new world leader (dare I say antichrist).  The loss of the presidency is the "mortal wound to the head" that the Bible talks about that the antichrist must miraculously survive before claiming power. In this case, the "head" isn't physical, but his leadership position as president.

Pretty off the wall, but you never know    

[DalesCarpentry]

TR. I have to say that is an interesting concept for sure. I don't know what SHTF scenarios are though. Could you please explain? Dale

[TribReady]

TR. I have to say that is an interesting concept for sure. I don't know what SHTF scenarios are though. Could you please explain? Dale

"Poop" Hit the Fan        

[Dixie Dude]

I always thought in terms of a physical mortal wound.  However, can't discount this Tribready.  Lots in Revelation are spiritual, not exactly physical.  Interesting.  The History channel had some interesting senarios on the end times from all cultures.  Chinese, Mayan, Christian, even ancient Egyptian.  All seemed to say around 2,000 or a little after.  The Maya were specific, December 22 or 23 in the year 2012.  From a Christian perspective, all has been fulfilled except the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.  Babies are being murdered in the womb.  People call good evil and evil good (gay movement, rights of criminals, endangered species more important than human needs, sexual promiscuity, etc.)  One must accept Christ to be saved from this present evil world. 

[torpedoman]

It is the first of dec anybody hear anything or is this all b.s.

[alsaqr]

The original post did not pass the smell test.  Remember all those Mexican women who have their kids in Texas and then go back to Mexico.  The child is automatically a citizen of the USA. 

If a kid is born in the USA he/she is a US citizen, period. 

[nomosendero]

The original post did not pass the smell test.  Remember all those Mexican women who have their kids in Texas and then go back to Mexico.  The child is automatically a citizen of the USA. 

If a kid is born in the USA he/she is a US citizen, period. 

But it appears that there is a good chance he wasn't born here. However, I feel nothing will come of this regardless.

[RonO777]

This is long but its the info Ive gotten so for. Some links & pics didnt showup
Ron


 On December 5th the US Supreme Court is set to discuss whether or not to grant certiorari in the lawsuit challenging Obama's citizenship. The case, unsuccessful at the state level, was submitted to Justice David Souter, who rejected it. The case then was resubmitted to Justice Clarence Thomas. The next line on the court's docket says: "DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 5, 2008."


 

If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case in full, oral argument may be scheduled.  Then the Electoral College meets on December 15 to finalize the election. Until that time, Obama is still only President-elect.   Please send a letter to the Supreme Court  by FedEx as soon as possible. Please take the action steps listed at the bottom of the letter.  We must force the hand of Congress and the Supreme Court to adress the issue of whether Obama meets the U.S. Constitution's citizenship requirements for being president.  Thank you! 
Sincerely yours for liberty,
Steven  Hotze , M.D.





 
 
 
 
 

 
 

 
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Rathergate II: Certification of Live Birth a clear forgery


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Posted: November 25, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 

The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.

What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital.

It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a few questions:

If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means to quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?  Why doesn't Obama?   
If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands of dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply answer the legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional requirements for office?  Why doesn't Obama? 
If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real "birth certificate"?  Why has Obama done this?   
If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order trick the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress to conduct hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical records, including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by the doctor) to ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for office were not violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and defend that Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are "guardians" of the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?

Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, has come forth with more definitive evidence than the word processor that tried to simulate a 1970s Selectric typewriter.

Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his findings on video at www.ObamaForgery.com with his identity masked and voice altered to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he has already received.

The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama's website www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be altered and forged.

The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned document such as this, there should be a lot of green pixels from the background showing up between the letters that appear on the certification. But in this case, instead of green pixels, there are white and grey pixels between the letters, which result when you replace existing text with other text.
There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds – necessary to fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the document itself shows only one fold. This is another indication of document alteration.
There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution than the rest of the document, which is another indication that it has been altered.
The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. That is fine except for the problem that …
The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you use only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document was manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live Birth," make sure you "borrow" only from documents used in the same year!

Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's constitutional qualifications.

But beyond the birth certificate issue, there's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan , Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit.

There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens.

If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.

That's quite possible since under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son – in this case Obama – to be an Indonesian state citizen, which was also recorded by Obama's school record.

So, if he didn't go to Indonesia in 1981 to visit mom (who had returned to Hawaii by then), might it have something to do with the fact that Indonesian passports expire every five years and it was time for renewal?

Why does that matter?

If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by native born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state ... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Simply put, since Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship, if Obama got that passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

So, if the experts are right, Obama forged a Certification of Live Birth to fool America . In addition to the automatic Indonesian citizenship granted to a child acknowledged as a "son" by an Indonesian male citizen, and the Indonesian citizenship listed in Obama's school records, Obama then traveled to a place where Americans weren't allowed to go, but citizens of Indonesia were. If he obtained an Indonesian passport on his trip in 1981, he effectively renounced any American citizenship he may have had and cannot serve as president (or "rule" as president, as members of his campaign have stated). These are serious questions that must have answers.

If Obama gets into office without verification that he has met the requirements of the U.S. Constitution, if you care about life, liberty or the family, you're going to have to make hundreds of calls to try and fight an agenda that seeks to silence you.

 ACTION LIST:  There is a way to help prevent this. Our founders sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. I'm asking you to do three things.

Fast and pray for all the hidden things to come to light.
Call the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee – in their district offices while they're home this week for Thanksgiving. Ask them to "Please hold congressional hearings to investigate whether Barack Obama meets the basic constitutional requirements for the highest office of the land."
Write a letter to the nine Justices of the United States Supreme Court (names are listed below) and put them in a FedEx (or other overnight) envelope to:
U.S. Supreme Court
1 First Street , N.E
Washington, D.C. 20543

Our Constitution matters and defending it is going to take an outcry from the public. The electors vote on Dec. 15. The numbers are below and your immediate action is critically needed right now. Do it before defending our liberties costs a lot more than making some phone calls and writing a few letters.

The Republican House Judiciary members: Call them at 202-225-3121, AND most importantly reach them in their district offices:

Lamar Smith (Texas), ranking member, critical in any hearings: 512-306-0439 Austin, 830-896-0154 Kerrville, and 210-821-5024 San Antonio.

James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin) 800-242-1119 or 262-784-1111 Brookfield

Howard Coble (North Carolina) 336-333-5005 Greensboro, 336-626-3060 Asheboro, 336-886-5106 High Point, 226-229-0159 Graham, 704-209-0426 Granite Quarry

Elton Gallegly ( California ) 800-423-0023 or 805-497-2224 Thousand Oaks , 805-686-2525 Solvang

Bob Goodlatte (Virginia) 540-432-2391 Harrisonburg, 434-845-8306 Lynchburg, 540-857-2672 Roanoke, and 540-885-3861 Staunton

Steve Chabot ( Ohio ) 513-684-2723 Cincinnati

Dan Lungren ( California ) 916-859-9906 Gold River

Chris Cannon ( Utah ) 800-571-2971 Provo , 801-569-5125 West Jordan

Ric Keller ( Florida ) 407-872-1962 Orlando , 888-642-1211 Eustis, 888-642-1211 Ocala

Darrell Issa ( California ) 951-693-2447 Temecula, 760-599-5000 San Diego

Mike Pence ( Indiana ) 765-640-2919 Anderson , 765-962-2883 Richmond, 765-747-5566 Muncie

Randy Forbes ( Virginia ) 757-382-0080 Chesapeake , 804-526-4969 Colonial Heights , 434-634-5575 Emporia

Steve King (Iowa) 641-782-2495 Creston, 712-580-7754 Spencer, 712-325-1404 Council Bluffs, 712-224-4692 Sioux City, 712-732-4197 Storm Lake

Tom Feeney ( Florida ) 386-756-9798 Port Orange , 407-208-1106 Orlando , 321-264-6113 Titusville

Trent Franks ( Arizona ) 623-776-7911 Glendale

Louie Gohmert (Texas) 866-535-6302 Lufkin/Marshall/Nagadoches, 903-236-8597 Longview, 903-561-6349 Tyler

Jim Jordan ( Ohio ) 419-522-5757 Mansfield , 419-999-6455 Lima , 419-423-3210 Findlay

Supreme Court Justices

Chief Justice John Roberts

Associate Justices:

Samuel A. Alito
Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
John Paul Stevens
Stephen G. Breyer
Ruth Bader Ginsberg

How important is the Constitution to you? Forward this to all you know.

Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's constitutional qualifications.
 

[magooch]

There's no question in my mind that Osama is not a real American.  He's a halfrican, but do I expect any of this to change anything--not.

[rex6666]

Alsaqr
You may not understand this Mexican woman giving birth in the USA deal.
They give birth in Texas so they or the baby DO NOT have to go back to mexico.
ANCHOR BABY