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Offline williamlayton

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NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« on: November 07, 2008, 11:58:36 PM »
Before I take down the 94, the beater, I want too find replacement screws & pins for the parts in the receiver and barrel I am removing.
I am a big fan of Murphy and believe that if I don't have just one replacement screw that will be the one I booger up or is deteriorated.
Got any thoughts on WHO makes these screws these days.
I am not having much luck with the usual suspects--Brownells, Midway, etc.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 01:33:05 AM »
http://www.wisnersinc.com/otherparts_sources.htm

I saw some pre-64 parts here. 
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 10:22:00 AM »
I wondered if those might work on my 1971 beater and really can't see why not but my lack of long gun experience made me ask the question.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 11:12:58 AM »
You better check to make sure.  On one of these forums a couple of months ago I remember a thread about getting pre 64 screws that didn't work on a post 64 or the other way around.  With the shipping it was high priced hardware, and it didn't work.  I wish I could be of more help than that.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 12:17:22 PM »
I know you said the usual suspects but did you try Numrich. I had an old Win. model 77 I needed a spring and some screws for and they had it

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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 01:54:52 PM »
I think one of the problems is terminology.
Some may be describing the part with different words.
I will contact, by phone, this week and check it against the list I have compiled.
Numerich is on the list and I am beginning too believe that we are speaking different languages.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 08:27:06 AM »
Tony Galazan (Conn Shotgun Co) makes & sells a Pre-64 Winchester 94 screw kit.
It's also available through Midway:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showpage?saleitemid=446782&utm_source=bizrate&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=645

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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 12:43:19 AM »
Rangr
Yes you are correct and I have ordered this set. I will all also order some parts from Wisners.
This may turn out too be a double order, as I suspect, but I think I will get most of the parts I need. Who knows, I may find that I don't need any. I am damned if I don't and damned if I do. ;)
This language thing has me a bit confused, doan you see.
One part that I am sure I want, and I can't seem too find and that is a mag spring. I can't imagine the shape that 50 year old one is in.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 12:36:38 PM »
It appears as if Wolff makes magazine springs for the 94....here is one at Midwayusa

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=400671&t=11082005

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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 05:42:01 AM »
Thanks jimster
I was a bit concerned as that is the one part i could not locate.
I am not going to order it yet but I can't imagine, well maybe I can, how detoriated that spring may be.
I talked too Wisners and was told their parts were for pre 64's. I tried too ask if the action parts might work but the lady didn't appear too want too discuss it. I can't imagine that some may be the same.
Oh well.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 02:32:40 PM »
It seems to be a chore just to find out which parts/screws are different in the post 64 ones....
Here is a place that might have some parts in stock you need for post 64 model 94's....I think your right, some screws are the same and a couple are different, but maybe between this place, and then ordering the pre 64 parts from Midway, you might get what you need. 
Seems I read the tang screw, and maybe the carrier screws were different...beats me...it's real hard to do a search on the info.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=0950z94%20POST%2064%20TOP%20EJECT%20STANDARD

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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2008, 11:03:27 PM »
Again, thanks.
I am not so afraid of being confused---that could be good or bad--With all of you helping I think I can get it if I need it.
Heck, it may be that this thing will disasemble like a dream and all pins and screws will be OK.
Then there is Murphy. :)
Got some stuff from Brownells last night.
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008, 11:22:10 PM »
Found out today that the parts from Galazan are BO. 60/90 wait.
OH WELL!
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Re: NEED HELP FINDING SCREWS
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2008, 02:51:38 AM »
I wouldn't be too concerned, if you're handy enough to disassemble/reassemble the rifle easily.  They're just not very complicated in design.

I once was bench testing a .375 Big Bore, that suddenly developed a very hard, grating trigger pull.

It turned out that one of the solid trigger pins had kinked, and was no longer perfectly straight - now exhibiting a sort of "dogleg" shape.
My guess is that it wasn't of sufficient hardness, and so replaced it with the shank of an appropriately-sized drill bit (ground to length), that lasted for the ten more years before I sold it to move up to a .356BB94.

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