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Offline PanaDP

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Problem with my buffalo classic?
« on: November 29, 2008, 11:56:42 AM »
I shot my buffalo classic a bit today and observed an interesting problem that I thought was happening the last time I shot it, too. It's pretty new and these two times are the only trips I have taken it to the range.

Anyway, I swear that as I shoot and the barrel heats up, the point of impact moves high and left. I was shooting it at 25 yards to get a new sight on paper. After I stopped adjusting the sight, I observed my point of impact move 6 to 8 inches high and left.

Has anyone noticed a problem like this with their rifles? It's frustrating, the say the least.

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 12:18:16 PM »
I would look for some other problem, at 25 yards that is way too much change for it to be just from barrel heating.  Larry
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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 12:31:00 PM »
Read the Handi Basics 101 sticky, shoot it without the forend, if it doesn't do it, it's forend fit causing the problem, but I agree with Larry, that's an awful lot of movement at 25yds just from heating. What load are you shooting?

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 12:39:56 PM »
Read the Handi Basics 101 sticky, shoot it without the forend, if it doesn't do it, it's forend fit causing the problem, but I agree with Larry, that's an awful lot of movement at 25yds just from heating. What load are you shooting?

Tim

I'll try that tomorrow. I read that FAQ and found a washer that fits in there nicely to relieve any pressure from the forend. A sheet of paper easily slides the whole way down to the forend bolt.

The purpose of the trip was to test a new handload so it was a handload with a cast lead bullet, 405gr, over 45gr of Reloder 7.

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 12:45:38 PM »
That's a healthy levergun load, are ya flinching by any chance?

Tim

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 12:52:40 PM »
Kinda been there, done that with the B.C.  I was about ready to trash it until I read the FAQ's about the foreend.  With Rem Green box, and a foreend that does not bind, I can place 3 touching at 50 yds off a rest.  At 100 I open up to an avg. of 1 1/2", but I have an eye problem that may be causing some of that.

Without the scope I can't focus at 100, even with glasses on. 

Lose the foreend, and try the cheap Rem.'s and you might be surprised. 

I later bought some Buffalo Bore at Tim's suggestion for hot loads. I was hoping for something flatter shooting.  My shoulder is flatter.   So far I've shot about half a box, and I may save the rest until I'm attacked by an elephant. The Rems will stop anything in my neck of the woods.

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 01:27:05 PM »
I suppose me flinching is always a possibility, but I felt good about all of these shots. They all broke clean and surprised me a bit like they should.

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2008, 01:49:12 PM »
Forend fit isn't just about clearing the barrel, how tight it fits the frame also affects accuracy, considering that a Handi will usually shoot real well without the forend makes me want to make it fit just snug enough to stay on without the forend screw, so that's what I do, see Forend fit in the FAQs. That and trying a pressure point at the forend tip work for me 99% of the time.  ;)

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Re: Problem with my buffalo classic?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 12:03:56 PM »
I think forearm pressure was the problem, that was just exacerbated by barrel heating. I put that o-ring on the barrel lug and shot it today and it was greatly improved.