Barnes TSX loads

[Dixie Dude]

Anyone use the 150 gr. TSX in a 30-06?  What Loads? and What results?

Also, the 200 gr. .358 caliber TSX in a 35 Whelen?  What Loads?  What results? 

I know from some on this forum the 165 gr TSX is optimum for 30-06 for deep penetration.  I also know about the 225 gr TSX for the 35 Whelen.  I just wondered if the smaller weight traveling at a higher velocity would get good expansion and penetration?  Some have said this bullet needs speed to expand.

[onesonek]

Anyone use the 150 gr. TSX in a 30-06?  What Loads? and What results?

Also, the 200 gr. .358 caliber TSX in a 35 Whelen?  What Loads?  What results? 

I know from some on this forum the 165 gr TSX is optimum for 30-06 for deep penetration.  I also know about the 225 gr TSX for the 35 Whelen.  I just wondered if the smaller weight traveling at a higher velocity would get good expansion and penetration?  Some have said this bullet needs speed to expand.

As far as speed goes most reports I have been hearing, it seems impact velocities needs to be in the 2200+ fps range 2300 is better.
Below 2200 it looks like expansion is very minimal.
So, with this you'll have to run a ballistic program to see what max range you may see.
I load TSX's, but have yet to see how they perform so far. I just haven't had an animal that I was willing to shoot them with, in what I use them in.
I suspect though, the 150 gr. would be excellent for medium game. I would move up and consider the 165 minimum for elk sized.
Just my personal opinion of course.

Dave

[Grumulkin]

The exit wound on a ground hog shot with a 165 gr. TSX out of a 30/06.  I think the bullet probably expanded.  This bullet shoots VERY well out of my 30/06 over Varget and the Barnes Banded Solids of the same weight shoot even better and hit about the same place at 100 yards.

[charles p]

Doubt I'll try many at their current prices.  All my hunting is whitetail hunting and most any bonded lead bullet works fine is you can shoot.

[Val]

Since I live in the Republik of Californistan where we have the requirement to use nonlead, in the "Condor Range", I have been develping loads with the Barnes TSX. So far I've developed a very accurate load for my .243 and 25-06. I develped a 150 grain Nosler E-tip for my 30-06 but there's some contraversy there. The load I develped for the 150 grain is the same powder load that I use in 150 grain Nosler lead bullets. I started low in powder and built up slowly anf the most accurate powder charge turned out to be the same as leaded bullets. Nosler says that max load for their e-tips is 2 grains less than the max loads in their lead bullets. I didn't know this until after I developed the load since Nosler hasn't published load data on their e-tips. The casings show no evidence of over pressure after shooting so I seems like my M70 has no problem with these loads but it still bothers me. Hornady just came out with nonlead bullets and they advertise that these bullets are interchangeable in a recipe with their leaded bullets. I'm going to switch to the Hornady bullets.

[onesonek]

Since I live in the Republik of Californistan where we have the requirement to use nonlead, in the "Condor Range", I have been develping loads with the Barnes TSX. So far I've developed a very accurate load for my .243 and 25-06. I develped a 150 grain Nosler E-tip for my 30-06 but there's some contraversy there. The load I develped for the 150 grain is the same powder load that I use in 150 grain Nosler lead bullets. I started low in powder and built up slowly anf the most accurate powder charge turned out to be the same as leaded bullets. Nosler says that max load for their e-tips is 2 grains less than the max loads in their lead bullets. I didn't know this until after I developed the load since Nosler hasn't published load data on their e-tips. The casings show no evidence of over pressure after shooting so I seems like my M70 has no problem with these loads but it still bothers me. Hornady just came out with nonlead bullets and they advertise that these bullets are interchangeable in a recipe with their leaded bullets. I'm going to switch to the Hornady bullets.

" Nosler says that max load for their e-tips is 2 grains less than the max loads in their lead bullets. I didn't know this until after I developed the load since Nosler hasn't published load data on their e-tips. I didn't know this until after I developed the load since Nosler hasn't published load data on their e-tips. The casings show no evidence of over pressure after shooting so I seems like my M70 has no problem with these loads but it still bothers me"

This makes sense with the longer bearing surface of the E-Tip. Each barrel is it's own boss with it's own likes and dislikes however. Just because a barrel does something other than a mfg's. general findings means little. If your firearm is handling the load without question and is accurate, why question it. I too am interested to see how the Hornady's shoot out of curiosity.


Dave