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Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« on: December 18, 2008, 05:21:38 AM »
You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.



With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.



In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.



"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.



"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."



The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.



Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.



A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.



The judge sentences you to life in prison.



This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.



How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire?



It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.



Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.



The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control," demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)



Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.



For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.



During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.



Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."



All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.



When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local a uthorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.



How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kinda like cars.



Sound familiar?



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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 12:49:10 PM »
It's coming. Hopefully we can derail this train before it gets here
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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 01:27:19 PM »
there is this thing called a militia mentioned in some obscure document
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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 04:33:27 AM »
Tony needed a better plan, or a big dog.

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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2008, 05:22:01 AM »
there is this thing called a militia mentioned in some obscure document

Really?  :o  I've never heard of anything like that before!  ::)

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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2008, 05:31:00 AM »
If anyone believes it can't happen here, you better get your head out of the sand. It's coming, some back door and some straight on. I've already heard "talk" of banning any gun with a removable mag, and ANY semi-auto. The gun grabbers have the numbers to pass this stuff. Scary days ahead for sure.

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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2008, 03:50:55 PM »
This could be us very soon if we don't start laying the groundwork now.

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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 03:21:56 AM »
Well when they come I'll be dead.  :D

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Re: Is it time to get serious and start actually fighting yet?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 05:38:52 AM »
can  you  say  ''one issue voter''

are  you  or  any  family  members democrats??

JOIN  THE REPUBLICANS  AND  STOP  THE  MCCAINS  BEFORE  THEY GET STARTED

DO  NOT  AVOID  BEING  ON  A JURY........you can  make  the  law  hard  to enforce

when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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