Skipper your right!!! Funny I switched to using BassProShops "stick o worms" Their as good as senko's and you get 20 and its $2 cheaper plus their YUM impregnated too besides. Now my story is I was using senko's all week and missed fish eveyday. I switched to stick o worms and got a hit and missed so i stopped moving it to talk to my buddie when a 3 1/2lb largemouth picked it up and almost took the rod out of my hands I never expected it. After landing her and releasing her I still had the stick o worm I casted it out at the same spot and nailed a large pickerel and i still had the stick o worm so after releasing him I casted out again and caught my third fish on the same worm another pickerel and still had the stick o worm left to use again!!!!! I came home yesterday morning and placed another order for more Stick O Worms and lastnite I placed another order for more because I feel I didn't order enough of them with the fall frenzy coming I'll be too busy fishing/ resting to do anything else. So now I just cast it out and let it sit too besides twitching it or just letting it fall too. Skipper is right so many different presentations with the same bait. Nothing is catching fish right now I'm using cranks, spinnerbaits, inline spinners, topwater stuff and spoons and nothing is working but bottom fishing plastics at this moment the week before cranks were working either twitching them or dead sticking them off the bottom. After a few days of nothing the 3 1/2lber felt good. Its been so tough here I feel good just to get a hit and miss!!!!!! BigBill