The best hunting load that I use for deer is 150 Nosler bt, varget powder,cci 200 primers in Winchester cases. From the Hodgdon manual I am 1 grain under max, you will have to determine what works for you. Velocity averages 2083 fps out of my super 14, and is very consistent. I don't have the ability to shoot one hole groups but this load will average 1.5" at 100 yds if I do my part. The 30-30 is easy to load for,lots of powder/bullet combinations that will shoot great. The enjoyment comes from finding the ones that work the best for your gun. lnewby