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What Have I Got?
« on: February 07, 2009, 07:19:29 AM »
Sorting thru some of my odd brass I found a case
head stamped 44 S&W spl but the top half is sized
up to .4425 ???
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 07:48:09 AM »
This help?


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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 08:06:58 AM »
You're not being very clear Hauler. Sounds like you have a standard 44 special to me.
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 08:25:44 AM »
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 08:43:32 AM »
Two wild guesses:
1. Hot load ( if it does not appear to have been deprimed/resized )
2. Improper resizing method


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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 08:48:18 AM »
maybe they were sized with a .45 colt die????

who knows...

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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 08:55:45 AM »
Quote from: OR-E-Gun Bill on February 07, 2009, 08:43:32 AM
Two wild guesses:
1. Hot load ( if it does not appear to have been deprimed/resized )
2. Improper resizing method


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Not deprimed and primer shows no signs of excess pressure.
I have 2 of them
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 04:46:42 PM »
I think they were shot in the wrong gun. I'm not sure what, one of the 45s?
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 05:30:05 PM »
We might be way off base but I agree with bilmac.
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 06:51:44 PM »
I don't see how shooting in a 45 would build even enough pressure to swell the cases this much. How about 44-40?
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2009, 12:53:34 AM »
I would think if shot in a 45 it would split the case
rather than expand it evenly ???

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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2009, 02:50:22 AM »
my guess too.
Quote from: bilmac on February 07, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
I think they were shot in the wrong gun. I'm not sure what, one of the 45s?
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2009, 03:33:39 AM »
  Looks like they had a bullet pushed down into them and then removed by kinetic puller?
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 12:11:31 PM »
 You have a .44 fired in a .45 long colt. I'm a range officer. A shooter showed me his fired cases. He couldn't understand why he was getting such poor accuracy out of his Blackhawk. Embarrassed when I pointed it out. No harm, no foul and the cases don't split. Just fireform into the reverse bottleneck. I've picked up several 9mm's that have been fired in a .40 S&W. Again, the caes don't split, but I'm sure accuracy is nil. Have a good one.

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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 01:03:45 PM »
Doubt the case has been fired in a wrong chamber as it is only expanded at the front. Had it been fired in a .45 Colt chamber most likely the entire length would look that way and it would probably have split.

My guess is someone ran a larger case belling die down into it. If it was run thru a .45 Colt belling die it would look just about like that. Don't ask how I know.
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 01:15:58 PM »
If it was run thru a .45 Colt belling die it would look just about like that. Don't ask how I know.

Now Bill , I thought that I was the only one to ever do that . ;D  :D  :o  ::)  ;)

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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 03:45:55 PM »
I tend to agree with reaper about firing in a .45 Colt. If the case was belled, I would think it had been sized. Why is it not deprimed?
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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 04:29:02 PM »
   I believe that the bullet has left the case and the pressure spike has passed by the time the case expansion reaches the web. Firing the cartridge in an oversized chamber doesn't allow full pressure to develop and the brass being somewhat elastic, doesn't split. I have a .41 mag case fired in a .44 maggie as well as 9's fired in a 40 S&W. These are all range pickups. If someone would point me to the how-to, I'll post a picture. Thanks.

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Re: What Have I Got?
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2009, 06:43:05 PM »
that's what i meant to say, the belling die. for some reason i couldn't think of the term.  ;D

I guess CRS hits at a young age sometimes too.

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