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Offline oprod

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« on: February 15, 2009, 03:28:35 AM »
found a line cannon for sale. neither me nor the seller have an idea of worth! it is navy marked 1942 with iron deck mount. it is in good condition. Uses a .32 blank to set off powder charge. Help me out here fellas, whats it worth?

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 03:46:40 AM »
Scrap iron is around a penny a pound right now, so that sets a minimum value.

I would think the price would be highly variable, and possibly dependant on how much his nagging wife prefers it sitting in the middle of his livingroom verses having some cold cash of any denomination in his wallet.

Figure out how bad he wants to sell it and make him an affordable to you offer based on that. He will then either ask you if you need help loading it in your pickup or he will quickly come back with his idea of what's it worth.

If you take the time to find out how much it really is worth, one of you will be dissapointed in the end.


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Re: line cannon
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 04:27:41 AM »
Your description of the piece is too general to answer your question.  They're usually priced based on condition, rarity, etc.  I've never seen one sell for under about $250. even 20 years ago.  if it has a complete firing mechanism with all the pieces on top (body, spring, striker, etc.) that works, that piece is worth easily $100-$250. alone.  Many of the guns come with the lower part of the firing mechanism only, and some were never converted to percussion firing, and still have a 0.2 inch diameter vent for friction primers.  If you post a photo of it here I could assess the rarity, condition, etc. but whatever it is if you can get it for $250.-$600. or so, I'd consider it a steal.  The most common maker is Sculler of New York.

If the bore's in any kind of shootable condition, that's what you want.  The kind you are describing probably has a barrel cast from very good steel and if in good condition would be quite safe to shoot with proper weight and granulation of black powder, and proper projectile for the interior ballistics.  These were designed to shoot a 17-pound elongated steel projectile.

The kind with trunnions at the rear as this one probably has, is hard to use as a gun, although they are perfect for use as mortars.  A Coors beer can filled with plaster or concrete fits the 2.5-in. bore perfectly.

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 04:43:58 AM »
Post some pictures for a better assessment..

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 02:58:55 PM »
Yes it looks like i forgot to mention that the barrel is all bronze. The firing mechinism is all there. the guy has been shooting it on 4th of july for the last 20 years or so. The mount is of course iron. It is not rifled. The bore apears to be 4" or so i did not measure it.  Hes thinking somewhere around 2,000. ???

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 03:19:56 PM »
Does it look similar to this one? If the tube is bronze that will increase the value greatly.



Edit.

 Or, does it look like this one??

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 01:37:39 AM »
Thanks for the reply inntoodeep. The cannon is of the second variety the all bronze one shown.  Only where the one in the picture has a cap on the firing mechenism, this one has the firing mechenism. No tools just the canon.

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 05:32:58 AM »
Questions for "Intoodeep"...on the second picture of the line cannon, what is the lenght of the barrel, diameter of the bore, size of the powder chamber? Looks simple, efficient, classy! Actually like them both, had a chance to buy one like the first picture, about 5 years ago, should have! Thanks, BoomLover
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Re: line cannon
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 02:14:30 PM »
BoomLover,

 Unfortnately, the Naval Co. Lyle (second photo) is not mine.  It is owned by a collector on the East Coast who has been trying to sell it for quite some time. Anyway, the details you asked for are: The tube is 32" long and the bore is 2.5" with no powder chamber.

oprod,

 Back to your original question. I have seen the Naval Co. Lyle listed as high as $4250. There were a couple on ebay a few years ago that sold for approx. 3k plus. So, I think that gives you an ideal of the high end. I think that if you could acquire it for between $1000 and $1,500 you would be ok. But, if you could get it lower that's even better. So, there's my skinflint opinion....  :D
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Re: line cannon
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 03:55:02 PM »
I know where there is a Lyle gun and even with freight for SA would not be that much.

It looks very similar to the one on this website. http://www.portorfordlifeboatstation.org/article8.html

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Re: line cannon
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2009, 05:29:47 AM »
We used to have a collector of Lyle guns locally and when he sold some of his collection; he was getting in excess of $3000 for each one. If you can buy one
for under $2000, go for it. Better yet, contact DD and try to get the one he knows about. Good luck!
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