self propelled artillery anno 1706 , what we today call rockets or misils .

[dan610324]

this is amazing , as its at least 303 years old .
I know the chinese shot rockets against their enemies , but those was only to frighten the enemies .
this have real explosive heads .

[Cat Whisperer]

Cool!

Where is the document from?

[dan610324]

www.arkeliet.net
its an norwegian renactment site
they have tons of this old drawings
I mentioned this site a few times before in a coupple of posts .

go there
then click on bildearkivet in the right upper corner
scroll down until you see the 3 original artillery handbooks
click on the book you want to open
then you are in heaven .
they are from 1698 , 1706 and 1743 .

[Cat Whisperer]

Dan -

THANKS!  There's something special about the looks of cannons of that period!

[dan610324]

it sure is , why do you think my main interest is early bronze guns 

[BoomLover]

Really interesting site, Dan! Thanks for posting it! Gave me some ideas, I'm going to try my hand at a Bombard, I think! Cool Stuff! BoomLover

[dan610324]

The great 40-ton Styrian Bombard at Constantinople in 1453 threw 700kg stones of 80cm diameter, but managed only three shots a day, and required over 100 men and 70 pair of oxen to manoeuvre

sorry but this is about all I got on bombards .

are you planning a half scale or ??   

would have been nice to go to montana with a half scale replica of that one 

sorry if the picture of the firing bombard scale replica is in a very small size ,  it was that way when I found it , but if you enlarge it a bit you can see the man firing it in the smoke cloud from the touch hole .

[dan610324]

a few more that I found now when I googled at bombard

[dan610324]

and the last

[dan610324]

heres some of the famous scotish mons meg

[Cat Whisperer]

I cannot even begin to think of paying for ALL THAT POWDER just for ONE shot!

[dan610324]

hehehe , thats why its so good to scale them down .
then you probably dont need more then 4 - 5 pouds of powder 

[carronader]

Can't understand you guy's interest in Bombards,damn ugly brutes,and that Mons Meg looks dreadful up close.Thanks from me too for that Norwegian web site,those guys take their cannons seriously.Surprising really as they never really fought anyone worthwhile (smirk)Russkies don't count!

[dan610324]

now you dont know what you are talking about 

we (the swedes) have been there many times . danish , dutch and englishmen also .

our most famous warior king ( Karl XII ) was killed in norway .
the question is still open for discussion if it was a swedish or norwegian button (bullet) that killed him .
yeah he was shot with a button and not a bullet .

but I can agree that the bombards aint that beautiful , but the turkish bronze bombard in two pieces are quite interesting . mostly because of its age and the idea to have it produced in two pieces .
would be nice to scale it down to golfball size , that would be approximately 1:19 scale .
you must also consider that most of the outer of the mons meg have been rusted away , its still an very interesting piece of weapon history .
but ok an beautiful 17th century bronze cannon are of course much more beautiful in my opinion .

[carronader]

Now then my Scandinavian friend,alas I know exactly what I'm talking about.As you could have worked out from my forum name,not only am I a great lover of all things artillery related but am also very very Scottish.I take no pleasure in bad mouthing the most famous of all Scottish artillery pieces.I still insist it is a poor excuse for a cannon.Our best pieces had to be scrapped in 1716 following the Great Haggis Fever Outbreak whereupon the top secret multiple haggis launchers being so acutely short of ammunition rendered the launchers totally useless.Being top secret of course meant their existence remains virtually unknown and also the Spring offensive by Scotland to invade Russia,Scandinavia and most of Eastern Europe that year had to be abandoned.
 The very thought of the dreaded haggis coming over the battlements or crashing through the gates was sufficient in many cases to elicit immediate surrender.We were therefore reduced to attacking the English again.An event always looked forward to but becoming a bit boring.
 As it took a lucky break (a frozen river )for you guys to eventually beat the sneaky Russians I think you will agree the Swedes would not have withstood the menacing haggis for more than a few days.
 Surely we can agree that among our beloved cannons we do have some ugly bugs.     

[dan610324]

hehehe , I dont care what you say . I still love the mons meg cannon , ok it is ugly .
but it still have tons of charm . yeah I must admit that Im a bit afraid when you are threatening me with the haggis , its an awful thought .
but today I guess that would be classified as an chemical weapon and thereby illegal to use in war by the haag convention    but if you go  400 years back I suppose that the swedish people wouldnt care about the haggis , maybe wondering why the enemies throwing food to them    then just eat a few poison mushrooms and run out to kick some scottish ass before they return home for supper     eating haggis of course .

sorry DD if this was to be an political post 

I was just thinking of mons meg now when you replied , I tried to imagine how they produced that monster.
think about what tools they had , it must have taken an extremely long time .
maybe not direct any beauty , but still interesting . ok I agree , ugly and interesting .

[Double D]

Haggis---Haag Convention....groan. Gives a frightening meaning to the old term food fight.

[dan610324]

mmmmmm