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WHEN is someone going to tell HIM where to go  >:(

Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/17/guns-on-a-plane-obama-secretly-ends-program-that-l/
After the September 11 attacks, commercial airline pilots were allowed to carry guns if they completed a federal-safety program. No longer would unarmed pilots be defenseless as remorseless hijackers seized control of aircraft and rammed them into buildings.

Now President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology.

The Obama administration this past week diverted some $2 million from the pilot training program to hire more supervisory staff, who will engage in field inspections of pilots.
This looks like completely unnecessary harassment of the pilots. The 12,000 Federal Flight Deck Officers, the pilots who have been approved to carry guns, are reported to have the best behavior of any federal law enforcement agency. There are no cases where any of them has improperly brandished or used a gun. There are just a few cases where officers have improperly used their IDs.

Fewer than one percent of the officers have any administrative actions brought against them and, we are told, virtually all of those cases “are trumped up.”

Take a case against one flight officer who had visited the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles within the last few weeks. While there, the pilot noticed that federal law enforcement officers can, with the approval of a superior, obtain a license plate that cannot be traced, a key safety feature for law enforcement personnel. So the pilot asked if, as a member of the federal program, he was eligible. The DMV staffer checked and said “no.” The next day administrative actions were brought against the pilot for “misrepresenting himself.” These are the kinds of cases that President Obama wants to investigate.

Since Mr. Obama's election, pilots have told us that the approval process for letting pilots carry guns on planes slowed significantly. Last week the problem went from bad to worse. Federal Flight Deck Officers - the pilots who have been approved to carry guns - indicate that the approval process has stalled out.
Pilots cannot openly speak about the changing policies for fear of retaliation from the Transportation Security Administration. Pilots who act in any way that causes a “loss of confidence” in the armed pilot program risk criminal prosecution as well as their removal from the program. Despite these threats, pilots in the Federal Flight Deck Officers program have raised real concerns in multiple interviews.

Arming pilots after Sept. 11 was nothing new. Until the early 1960s, American commercial passenger pilots on any flight carrying U.S. mail were required to carry handguns. Indeed, U.S. pilots were still allowed to carry guns until as recently as 1987. There are no records that any of these pilots (either military or commercial) ever causing any significant problems.

Screening of airplane passengers is hardly perfect. While armed marshals are helpful, the program covers less than 3 percent of the flights out of Washington D.C.'s three airports and even fewer across the country. Sky marshals are costly and quit more often than other law-enforcement officers.

Armed pilots are a cost-effective backup layer of security. Terrorists can only enter the cockpit through one narrow entrance, and armed pilots have some time to prepare themselves as hijackers penetrate the strengthened cockpit doors. With pilots, we have people who are willing to take on the burden of protecting the planes for free. About 70 percent of the pilots at major American carriers have military backgrounds
Frankly, as a matter of pure politics, we cannot understand what the administration is thinking. Nearly 40 House Democrats are in districts were the NRA is more popular than House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. We can't find any independent poll in which the public is demanding that pilots disarm. Why does this move make sense?

Only anti-gun extremists and terrorist recruits are worried about armed pilots. So why is the Obama administration catering to this tiny lobby at the expense of public safety?

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Re: he ForGot about 9 11 ? Behind closed doors he takes pilots security
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 12:39:53 PM »
when it happens again he doesnt want any of his buddies getting shot
never to much gun

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Re: he ForGot about 9 11 ? Behind closed doors he takes pilots security
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 03:37:53 PM »
I am not a pilot buy if I were I would quit if I couldn't carry while piloting the air craft that I am charged with the safty of my crew, passagengers, and my plane.
After quiting I would make all the noise I could to force the hand of that LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
I will tell you now that I will never fly again until I am sure that the pilot is armed!

We can only hope that the next plane they pick is NPs and they never bring her back!




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Re: he ForGot about 9 11 ? Behind closed doors he takes pilots security
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 04:46:19 PM »
Boy that is just wrong. Maybe he might change his mind when some terrorist hijacks another plane. Then proceeds to fly it right into the White House killing his family. Then the light bulb might go off in his haed and think boy if that pilot would have just had a gun I might still have my family. Dale
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 04:52:21 PM »
Dale, my thoughts exactly. Especially if it was one of the terrorists their going to let out of Getmo.  gypsyman
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 04:55:46 PM »
Dale, my thoughts exactly. Especially if it was one of the terrorists their going to let out of Getmo.  gypsyman
Don't even get me started on the Getmo prison thing. These people can not and must not be released. The are there for a good reason. Dale
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 05:20:56 PM »
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Re: he ForGot about 9 11 ? Behind closed doors he takes pilots security
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 06:20:48 PM »
I think I am gonna poke around on the Fox news website and see if I can put a bug in Bill ORielys ear. If I was in Govt. and doing wrong I would sure hate to have that bulldog hanging on my ankle.