Author Topic: President's Plan to alienate the Military (Read 909 times)

teamnelson · « **on:** March 16, 2009, 08:52:11 PM »

Obama wants wounded vets to get their own insurance to cover their treatment so he can raise $540 million. http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090316/pl_usnw/the_american_legion_strongly_opposed_to_president_s_plan_to_charge_wounded_heroes_for_treatment

- Proposed mandatory enrollment in federal TSP for 3% of income of all service members, no matching funds like they do for civilians (white house), to underwrite an anti-smoking campaign.
- Reenlistment Bonuses were dropped last Tuesday - no more $ in spending package.
- Recruiting was already down, retention was already down.
- DOD told to kill 12 major programs to save $. So far a Carrier Group/Wing are on the chopping block. Will affect over 10,000 families on that program alone. Other programs include all the support programs developed to assist wounded warriors, families, PTSD, TBI, etc.
- Promises for more dwell in between deployments will not be supportable under new "strategies." My last unit has been 7mo. out, 7 mo. back for 4 combat tours to OEF/OIF, and 3 of the 7 back are off island for workup training so no family time.
- Early withdrawal from Iraq = another war we're not allowed to win.
- Imposed limitations in Afghanistan = yet another war we're not allowed to win.

Despite what the liberals say, most of us are educated, do read and pay attention to the news, and recognize the direction things are going.

oldandslow · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2009, 03:33:48 AM »

But will there be enough of us to do anything about it? We couldn't do anything to stop it in the election. What about now?

Questor · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2009, 03:50:17 AM »

It's not worth fighting for anymore.

Skunk · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:21:38 AM »

That is just pure Bull$hit of the highest order. It clearly demonstrates were BO rates our Military and Veterans. It's no surprise that recruiting levels are down. Before long our entire military is going to consist mostly of contractors at a much higher cost than giving volunteers a little incentive to join up. I suppose the next step will be a mandatory draft.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:26:33 AM »

I can not, and will not support anyone who will not support our military!

BO is BS in my book.
The stupid BAST%&* don't even know who is keeping his A#* safe here at home.

With S#*% like this for a policy, it won't be long before we have no military and then whoever can just walk right in and take over!

WHOEVER VOTED FOR THIS DUMB A#* I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY!!!

I was pissed before, now I am really going off.
My state reps will here from me on this!
LONGTOM

Tommyt · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:36:34 AM »

Long Tom
I sent you a pm abut a Guy (Army Officer) who refuses to Listen to BO until He Proves the Birth Certificate

Back to the Post
I agree with Longtom

WHOEVER VOTED FOR THIS DUMB A#* I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY!!!

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:39:36 AM »

The bottom line is still that Freedom is a privilege and is not ever to be taken for granted.

You would think that this administration would consider this to be elementery but they appear to have lost all sight.

The Dems had already began this process in my area when they shut down the national guards 183 fighter wing which was based in Springfield IL within the last 1-1/2years.

It is not until they feel threatened on a personnal level that they will take action by either hiring armed body guards or even "carrying" themselves as more than one Liberal, anti-gun Judge has been known to do.

They are obligated to protect the Country though, or are they?

I would have to agree with Skunk. It could be that all of the fat will be squeezed from the Military until a mandatory draft becomes necessary. In the mean time, the older guys like me will be doing mandatory community service.

I dont know how long it would take, 5yrs? 10yrs? 20yrs? but eventually the US would be considered to be ripe for the taking by another country or countries.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2009, 07:32:34 AM »

Obamanation hung out with domestic terrorists. They are getting rid of the term enemy combatant and he's going to put the gitmo criminals into our civilian prisions. They will be found innocent in civilian criminal court because the military cannot build a case agaonst them like CSI on the Iraq & Afgan battle fields. So the evedance will not stand in civilian court. These criminals will be let out on our streets. What makes anyone think obmamanation would support veterans. He could care less about this country. He only cares about himself and his desires to continue implementing the coup take over of our government.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:54:09 AM »

TommyT:

I gave it its own thread, and I agree with him.

LONGTOM

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2009, 01:35:27 PM »

The military must have as much respect for him as they had for BC!

GameHauler · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2009, 01:52:21 PM »

Man this is just what I expected

before Election $:-\$
Bring down the Military and make a Gestapo in charge.
Hile Hitler.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2009, 02:02:13 PM »

Well said Gamehauler!

The NIC wants to weaken the military which is filled with centrist to conservative ranks, and then he will install a group of faciest leftists in a civilian security force.

Brett · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2009, 02:24:59 PM »

I'm speechless, I can't find the words to express how POed Obama makes my.

torpedoman · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »

Just the latest round in something that has been going on long before he was elected anywere. I was promised free medical care for life for the entire time i was in the military, It was something discussed in every reenlistment talk i heard or gave. After I retired i got a letter that said" about that free medical care we promised die before wendsday or we lied to you" not really the exact words but that was what it said. When it was questioned by the fleet reserve and other military support groups the reply was "congress never authorized that policy" even the ex military members of congress held that line. If any other company in america had promised generations of employes a benefit by all members of the organization then pulled this they would be put out of business. For those of you who may have served under me i apoligize for lying to you.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:05:04 PM »

I think the man is a fool, He is gonna have to reinstate the draft to make an army soon!

What self respecting man would volunteer or reenlist after this kinda BS.

All he is gonna get are the blacks and then only the stupid ones! History is still being made

Change............. that dumb half breed is definetly makin some changes.... The USA into hell!

Man I wish I could use the language that I'm feeling right now!!

teamnelson · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:38:01 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/18/vets.insurance/

Thank you to all those who wrote their elected officials, or participate in any of the veteran's groups who cried foul and drew this to a stop. I just wrote a Democratic Senator and thanked him for doing the right thing - even a broke clock is right twice a day.

mauser98us · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:54:51 PM »

You guys miss the point. The vets are collateral damage. The reason he wantas to do this is to export it to private insurance companies, who usually will not cover existing conditions. This would be the setup for GOVERNMENT, read socialized health care

Skunk · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:57:07 PM »

Well good. I'm happy for our Vets, although they should have never been subjected to this scandal in the first place. It's also nice to see that public outrage sometimes gets things changed for the better.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:25:17 PM »

GLAD TO HEAR THAT!

Watch'em , they will try anything to get the money they wanna spend!

Graybeard · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2009, 05:39:55 PM »

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The bottom line is still that Freedom is a privilege and is not ever to be taken for granted.

NO that is WRONG!

Freedom is a GOD given right of all men. Those who believe otherwise are the cause of the loss of freedom. Those in charge in governments all over would love you to believe it's merely a priviledge they can grant or take back at will but it is not.

The only way freedom is lost is by free men not being willing to stand and fight to keep it when folks try to take it from them. If you aren't willing to die to remain free then you don't deserve freedom.

LIVE FREE OR DIE!