Author Topic: Looking for some500gr/ 500 S&W data (Read 949 times)

cwlongshot · « **on:** September 02, 2005, 01:34:58 AM »

Hello everyone! I have been lurking here for some time and this is a GREAT site! Thank you to all who have posted here, there is some AWESOME information!!!

Here is my question:
I am looking for some reloading data for the 500S&W for use in my Handi rifle. More specifically, the 500 gr Hornady bullets in brass w/Rifle primers.
I got some data from Hornady, but it is for pistol primers only. I know I could start low and work up, but would rather have some "official" data, from a reliable source.

I am thinking with its soft nose it should work wonderfully. I would think something like 1600 fps should work well and be easily attainable .

My intended uses are close range, Pigs, Bears, Moose and of course Mr Whitetail!!

Thank you in advance!!

CW

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 02, 2005, 02:15:42 AM »

I don't know if you e-mail me, but I have sent several e-mails out with load data. If you have Excel on your computer I can send you a bunch of data. If not I can try to cut and paste to an e-mail.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #2 on:** September 02, 2005, 02:44:03 PM »

THANK YOU!!

Yes I do have and use frequently EXCELL.
Send to brian@jonfund.com

CW

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 02, 2005, 04:56:59 PM »

I sent it.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #4 on:** September 04, 2005, 03:45:23 AM »

I GOT IT!! :wink: Thanks.

Anyone else?

poncaguy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 04, 2005, 04:15:36 AM »

Looking for some ballistic info on the 460 S&W............... :shock:

ButlerFord45 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 04, 2005, 05:25:54 PM »

Quote from: poncaguy

Looking for some ballistic info on the 460 S&W............... :shock:

Sir, if you'll start a new post, I believe you'll get a lot more responses.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #7 on:** September 09, 2005, 02:10:53 PM »

No one else is shooting the 500gr Hornady in the 500S&W???

HELP!!!

CW

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 09, 2005, 04:12:42 PM »

Quote from: cwlongshot

No one else is shooting the 500gr Hornady in the 500S&W???

HELP!!!

CW

I prefer cast bullets in my 500Mag. I do shoot the 400 gr. Sierra and 350 Hornady some times. But the big 535 and 575 gr. case bullets are some of my favorite.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 09, 2005, 04:16:22 PM »

Quote from: poncaguy

Looking for some ballistic info on the 460 S&W............... :shock:

Hornady sent me an e-mail with load data. If you e-mail me I will forward it to you. It is for the 240 and 300 gr. Hornady XTP Magnum bullets.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 09, 2005, 04:18:24 PM »

Quote from: cwlongshot

No one else is shooting the 500gr Hornady in the 500S&W???

HELP!!!

CW

Try the 495 gr. load data I sent you.

Tc300mag1 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:37:21 PM »

Picked up my 500 tonight now im just waiting for my reloading stuff to come in wooo hoo

cwlongshot · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:44:47 PM »

Quote from: Tc300mag1

Picked up my 500 tonight now im just waiting for my reloading stuff to come in wooo hoo

You got a SB2-500??
Was it a special order? I have been waiting for almost 6months!!!!
Please post up with your range results!

CW

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2009, 01:30:06 PM »

I did two things with my 500 S&W handi just this past weekend. But - I have yet to load any 500 grainers. 1) it was shooting all over the place on my little 60 yard private range, giving groups in the 3-4 inch range with occassional fliers to boot! So, I recrowned it with an 11-degree target crown (no small task because it is a composite barrel with a hard outer cylinder and softer metal on the inside - looks like H&R put a 50-cal liner inside a shotgun barrel or something). This improved groups right away. I then loaded the remington core lokt ultras (385 grain, semi-spitzer hollow points) over 39.5 grains of H110. I also seated the bullets to 2.070 instead of the 2.050 listed in Hodgdon's data, and put on a pretty heavy crimp. Bingo, a little over 1-inch at 60 yards for 3-shot groups! However, this load kicks fairly hard and the cases come out sooty. Not sure what is going on there, because this charge should expand the cases ok. I imagine that the 500 grainers must kick like a Missouri mule...Very happy with my reborn handi rifle. Have not used the chronograph on this load yet.

EDIT: MY BAD - that was H110, not 4895. Sorry.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #14 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:25:19 PM »

Holy old threads batman!!!!

I believe that was my first thread here!!!!

I really wanted to use this bullet. But as hard as I tried, I couldn't find a load that shot well enough.

I have tried the Rem bullet but only a couple powders so far. I do also like this bullet. (And its price!!) So far my best accuracy and consistently accurate load has been with a 440Gr WFGC bullet and XMP5744 powder at about 80% attainable velocity. (Read Lite load)

Good luck with your loads and welcome to Gray beards!!

CW

michaelt454 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:50:30 PM »

How in the HELL did he find that thread, he must have been digging D
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Michael T.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2009, 04:59:06 PM »

Yea , when i saw CW lurking for a while i figgered it was spoof until I saw the Date!

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:58:05 AM »

Yeah. When I saw the date after I responded I thought "Geeeeez - I am about 4 years behind!" Anyway, I am happy with the results, especially with an inexpensive bullet with a little better BC. I got to this thread because I searched for 500 S&W maggie data for the handi. Still haven't figured out the soot part though. I can't believe there is not enough pressure to seal off the chamber, especially with the relatively stout kick - and the bullet really smacks the target at 60 yards. RM

michaelt454 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2009, 06:37:06 AM »

Are you having trouble with some of your 500 loads sooting up? Guns o fun?

michaelt454 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2009, 06:41:49 AM »

I use H110 and Lil gun in my 500, and I have never had sooting trouble, but I also crimp all rounds even though I only shoot out of my handi.

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:24:07 AM »

michaelt454 - yes, I am getting sooty cases. This is the first time this has happened. From the little research that I did, this may relate to the case not expanding enough to fully seal against the chamber and then gas blow-by. Nothing else looks unusual about the cases. The primer looks right too. Maybe I need to go up by 0.5 grain of H110 and see if it goes away. I really was trying to keep pressures down for the sake of longevity of the action. I have no idea exactly how to estimate what the pressure would be because it should be a nonlinear increase and I do not have loading software that can give me an estimate between minimum and maximum as listed by Hodgdon. I would not be worried, except for the large case head area on the 500. I see Hodgdon lists 42.5 grains of H110 with this bullet at a pressure of 47,300.
-Rich

michaelt454 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:40:56 PM »

I have no idea as to why they would do that, it would seem that would be plenty powerful a load to satisfy the chamber. Maybe you could try your hand with another powder? just to see what happens.

Michael T.

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:40:59 AM »

I wonder if the crimp prevented the mouth from expanding as much as it has in the past. This time I put on a HEAVY crimp with the seater die. In fact, some litte wiry shreds of brass came off the case mouth as it was pressed into the cannelure during crimping. I have a Redding crimp die on order. Maybe I will be able to better control the crimp with that. When I fired these without much of a crimp, I don't remember all this soot on the case. I only went to the heavy crimp after reading Richard Lee's stuff about how important crimps can be for getting a smooth pressure curve. Maybe I need to go back to a light crimp and see if I still have decent accuracy. Thanks for your comments

. This is the only pistol cartridge that I load, so I am feeling my way. -R

michaelt454 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:17:25 AM »

My strong suspicion would be that it is an issue with the crimp. Which issue I don't know.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:24:50 AM »

It could be bad powder, I had that exact same problem in a 22-250, badly smoked cases as well as extremely low velocity for the load, Hodgdon replaced it. I shoot Lil'gun in my 500S&W Handi with all weight bullets up to 700gr, I prefer it for all my pistol chambered H&Rs.

Tim

michaelt454 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:21:02 AM »

lil gun is my favorite too!

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #26 on:** March 26, 2009, 12:11:56 PM »

I will have to get hold of some Lil Gun. Have heard good things here and elsewhere about it. Pressures look to be a little higher though for the same velocity range. Again, I am only a little worried about the longevity of the 500 S&W handi action. This little gun is a hoot to shoot!