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Offline Win 1917

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modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« on: November 09, 2009, 03:28:03 PM »
Here's a question. I have 3 22's. A 10/22, Marlin Model 60, and a 22 relolver worth about $100 (sorry I'm on vacation and don't know the model # offhand). I'm looking for a smallbore silhouette rifle.

My plan was to sell all 3 and buy a CZ 452 Silhouette. Someone recently told me though that a 10/22 can make a decent rifle too. So the other option would be to sell the 60 and revolver and use the money for upgrades to the 10/22. Which would be the better route?

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 03:57:46 AM »
There are lots of things that can be done to a 10/22 that will turn it into a really great target rifle.  A barrel and trigger are just two of them.  It will cost you a little more than $100 but you can do a little at a time.  You can buy enough aftermarket parts for a 10/22 to completely build a rifle without buying an origional.  There are all kinds of sexy stocks and barrels that will stack 22 slugs on top of each other at 100 meters.  It just depends on what you want to spend. 

By the way.  I am not sure whatthe rules of your game will allow, but it would be a good idea to check before you start spending money.

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 03:08:26 AM »
You can probably upgrade a 1022 to shoot as good as an Anschultz 1712 (top end of the Hunter Class), but to get there you'll spend about $1100.00, not far from the price of a good used 1712. At that point you'll have a gun that can only be shot in Standard Class. The 452 Varmint hits the same weight as the 1712, shoots pretty close and costs $450.00 - 500.00 (probably will need a trigger upgrade $15.00 - 60.00) and can be shot in both Hunter and Standard.

That being said, building the 1022 is also fun

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 03:11:29 AM »
if you're looking at CZ 452 look at the Varmint. not the Silhouette. the varmint is about a pound heavier and with a 16 oz scope will make Hunter class weight limit of 8.5 lbs. weight is an advantage

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 03:58:12 AM »
I'd go with the CZ for one major reason. The silhouette game is all about get the right ammo to shoot in your gun at 100 meters. If you add the auto recoil/ loading of the 10/22 to the mix you have another problem and that is getting the right ammo to cycle the bolt. It's going to be hard enough selecting ammo and at a price you can afford. Silhouette is a bolt action game, period.

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 12:49:17 AM »
Personally, I would not recommend a semi-auto for Rifle Silhouette at all.  I would definately buy the CZ452.  I have yet to see a Master shooter using a semi-auto in a competition.  The best ammunition you can buy for accuracy is wax coated and lower velocity.  Between the two it can make the action useless.
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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 06:00:21 AM »
The 10/22 can be used for a 'starter rifle' but is very hard to shoot.  It has a very slow lock time and there are too many moving parts.  I did shoot a 10/22 for about 6 years.  I would go with the CZ.

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 01:56:29 PM »
Several years ago I believe it was Troy Lawton, won the nationals with a modified 1022. That sparked an interest in upgrading 1022s for silhouette I've talked with shooters that feel an auto is an advantage during a windy match, when you can wait for a calm and shoot 5 shots quickly.

I'd still prefer the CZ 452 varmint

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 01:46:39 AM »
Troy did win the Hunter Rifle using a Ruger 10/22 in 1996.  He quit using it and uses bolt action rifles today.  I am sure overall the time was not an advantage as compared to dependability & accuracy.  You can shoot relatively fast with a bolt action if you chose to practice.   I have shot all 5 shots in 30 seconds a few times in a match while the wind was down on a gusty day.  I did it in the last November match here in Phoenix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIpffox8p-M

I definately agree ith Jerry G, if it is all you have to try out Rifle Silhouette use it!  There is no need to bust out the wallet unless you are certain you like the sport or, have the extra cash
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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 10:16:09 AM »
"if you're looking at CZ 452 look at the Varmint. not the Silhouette. the varmint is about a pound heavier and with a 16 oz scope will make Hunter class weight limit of 8.5 lbs. weight is an advantage"

Check the rules first, before you buy.-I believe the Varmint is NOT legal.-The CZ452 Silhouette is approved by the IMSSA. The local clubs in my area recommend the CZ452 Silhouette for the Hunter Class. This the the "low bucks" class. the Standard or Silhouette class(big bucks) is dominated by the Anschutz rifles.

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2010, 05:51:39 PM »
One thing,I have not seen, is the scope. One that will repeatedly hold zeros at the various distances involved. I have a 10-22 with a Leoupold Vari-X III 4-16X on top that I use when I occassionaly shoot smallbore. I mostly do cowboy lever action or hunter pistol. 

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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2010, 07:08:47 PM »
Take your 10-22 spend some coin on the upgrades and it will shoot like crazy.
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Re: modified 10/22 or CZ 452 Sil?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 05:47:02 AM »
"if you're looking at CZ 452 look at the Varmint. not the Silhouette. the varmint is about a pound heavier and with a 16 oz scope will make Hunter class weight limit of 8.5 lbs. weight is an advantage"

Check the rules first, before you buy.-I believe the Varmint is NOT legal.-The CZ452 Silhouette is approved by the IMSSA. The local clubs in my area recommend the CZ452 Silhouette for the Hunter Class. This the the "low bucks" class. the Standard or Silhouette class(big bucks) is dominated by the Anschutz rifles.

The varmint is legal for NRA hunting rifle (or standard) as long as it makes weight 8.5 lbs (light scope and rings). It, along with the American are second only to Anschutz at the NRA Nationals. DAGS search for IMMSU rules the only reference I find is the CZ silhouette was designed to meet IMSSU rules. Are IMMSU rules different than NRA? I see many NRA matches in the US, but no IMMSU sanctioned matches.