US Army to purchase $6million in riot gear for USA domestic use!!!

[lrs]

I do not think 6 million dollars in riot gear will be NEAR enough, IMHO.

[Cabin4]

So let's say the federal law is passed and local law enforcement and BATF get orders to start confiscating guns and they start in your town.  Now we all know that the order can be given to the locals, troops, etc. and they will start and there would be a good month or two between the order being given and them stopping due to the law being reevaluated or said to be against the constitution.  Kind of like hurricane katrina but on a much bigger scale.  It ws illegal, but they did it anyway.

So, in these weeks they start coming door to door in a mans neighborhood and searching houses because they know who has what  and so on.  They come to a mans house who has a family and this man has already decided that he will not give up his guns without a fight.  they knock on or knock down the door, this man resists and draws his own weapons, as to follow the, "they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands" saying and the "law"enforcement ends up killing this man.  Because in the begining these"law"enforcement guys are going to be jacked up with the itchy trigger fingers.  Yes, he might have taken a few with him but, in the end this man is dead, they got his guns, and now his family has no husband and father, the wife and children are essentially left on their own.

How can this situation be avoided or how could this situation been delt with differently but still up hold the, "YOU AINT GETTIN MY DAMN GUNS" attitude?  The man is dead and his attitude has changed nothing except for the fact that he is dead and his family is on it's own, no revolution was started because of his actions, no mass backlash against law enforcement started.  this man basically becomes a statistic to report years later.  Men must be smarter than that, not to say anyone is not smart, this situation just needs to be thought about.

What say you??

Tbull

I will repeat:

Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
John Hancock


Today as we all add our thoughts and opinions here, our federal, state and local governments are in crystal clear violation of our civil liberties guaranteed under the constitution. Our government is breaking the law. The people in elected office that passed these laws should be in jail and those that enforce these laws are in violation of their oath of office or duty. They are the law breakers, not me.

And I will Add:

In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right is protected by the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution.

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796.

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution 1776

All I will say is look up the New Hampshire state slogan. It appears on each license plate.

[Graybeard]

And your better solution is? 


Live free or die. Live free or die. Live free or die.

[Cabin4]

I think this will sum up the last sentance in my previous post and confirm we are on the same page.

[FWiedner]

So let's say the federal law is passed and local law enforcement and BATF get orders to start confiscating guns and they start in your town.  Now we all know that the order can be given to the locals, troops, etc. and they will start and there would be a good month or two between the order being given and them stopping due to the law being reevaluated or said to be against the constitution.  Kind of like hurricane katrina but on a much bigger scale.  It ws illegal, but they did it anyway.

So, in these weeks they start coming door to door in a mans neighborhood and searching houses because they know who has what  and so on.  They come to a mans house who has a family and this man has already decided that he will not give up his guns without a fight.  they knock on or knock down the door, this man resists and draws his own weapons, as to follow the, "they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands" saying and the "law"enforcement ends up killing this man.  Because in the begining these"law"enforcement guys are going to be jacked up with the itchy trigger fingers.  Yes, he might have taken a few with him but, in the end this man is dead, they got his guns, and now his family has no husband and father, the wife and children are essentially left on their own.

How can this situation be avoided or how could this situation been delt with differently but still up hold the, "YOU AINT GETTIN MY DAMN GUNS" attitude?  The man is dead and his attitude has changed nothing except for the fact that he is dead and his family is on it's own, no revolution was started because of his actions, no mass backlash against law enforcement started.  this man basically becomes a statistic to report years later.  Men must be smarter than that, not to say anyone is not smart, this situation just needs to be thought about.

What say you??

Tbull

I can't find it in my heart to admire a man who uses his family as an object to hide behind so that he can avoid doing what needs to be done.

What satisfaction is gained from the temporary comfort of your child if you are unwilling to protect or fight for that child's entire future?  That's like substituting a chocolate chip cookie for a hot meal.

A child that has one parent still has a parent to care for it, and a woman who won't get on the same page, or who can't take care of herself isn't worth fighting for anyway.

I'd rather my children be told that I died fighting for their future and freedom, rather than that I never fought for them at all and, in fact, used their tiny bodies as a shield to avoid doing so.

 

[lrs]

I have not read the report, so this is just guess work.
There has not been much in the way of normal, law abiding, tax paying, hard working Americans taking to the streets in rioting.  At least, not in recent memory.
But what do you think would happen if a major event involving b.o. occurred?  Would you anticipate riots?  Easy answer.
I've already discussed contingency plans with family members, where to go and what to do, in the event something happened.

[Cabin4]

So let's say the federal law is passed and local law enforcement and BATF get orders to start confiscating guns and they start in your town.  Now we all know that the order can be given to the locals, troops, etc. and they will start and there would be a good month or two between the order being given and them stopping due to the law being reevaluated or said to be against the constitution.  Kind of like hurricane katrina but on a much bigger scale.  It ws illegal, but they did it anyway.

So, in these weeks they start coming door to door in a mans neighborhood and searching houses because they know who has what  and so on.  They come to a mans house who has a family and this man has already decided that he will not give up his guns without a fight.  they knock on or knock down the door, this man resists and draws his own weapons, as to follow the, "they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands" saying and the "law"enforcement ends up killing this man.  Because in the begining these"law"enforcement guys are going to be jacked up with the itchy trigger fingers.  Yes, he might have taken a few with him but, in the end this man is dead, they got his guns, and now his family has no husband and father, the wife and children are essentially left on their own.

How can this situation be avoided or how could this situation been delt with differently but still up hold the, "YOU AINT GETTIN MY DAMN GUNS" attitude?  The man is dead and his attitude has changed nothing except for the fact that he is dead and his family is on it's own, no revolution was started because of his actions, no mass backlash against law enforcement started.  this man basically becomes a statistic to report years later.  Men must be smarter than that, not to say anyone is not smart, this situation just needs to be thought about.

What say you??

Tbull

I can't find it in my heart to admire a man who uses his family as an object to hide behind so that he can avoid doing what needs to be done.

What satisfaction is gained from the temporary comfort of your child if you are unwilling to protect or fight for that child's entire future?  That's like substituting a chocolate chip cookie for a hot meal.

A child that has one parent still has a parent to care for it, and a woman who won't get on the same page, or who can't take care of herself isn't worth fighting for anyway.

I'd rather my children be told that I died fighting for their future and freedom, rather than that I never fought for them at all and, in fact, used their tiny bodies as a shield to avoid doing so.

 

Who are you directing to?

[FWiedner]

Who are you directing to?

Not every comment is directed at someone.

Just adding thought generated from a previous comment to the conversation.

 

[45-70.gov]

So let's say the federal law is passed and local law enforcement and BATF get orders to start confiscating guns and they start in your town.  Now we all know that the order can be given to the locals, troops, etc. and they will start and there would be a good month or two between the order being given and them stopping due to the law being reevaluated or said to be against the constitution.  Kind of like hurricane katrina but on a much bigger scale.  It ws illegal, but they did it anyway.

So, in these weeks they start coming door to door in a mans neighborhood and searching houses because they know who has what  and so on.  They come to a mans house who has a family and this man has already decided that he will not give up his guns without a fight.  they knock on or knock down the door, this man resists and draws his own weapons, as to follow the, "they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands" saying and the "law"enforcement ends up killing this man.  Because in the begining these"law"enforcement guys are going to be jacked up with the itchy trigger fingers.  Yes, he might have taken a few with him but, in the end this man is dead, they got his guns, and now his family has no husband and father, the wife and children are essentially left on their own.

How can this situation be avoided or how could this situation been delt with differently but still up hold the, "YOU AINT GETTIN MY DAMN GUNS" attitude?  The man is dead and his attitude has changed nothing except for the fact that he is dead and his family is on it's own, no revolution was started because of his actions, no mass backlash against law enforcement started.  this man basically becomes a statistic to report years later.  Men must be smarter than that, not to say anyone is not smart, this situation just needs to be thought about.

What say you??

Tbull

an  eye  for and  eye

times 10

10  obama supportes  must quietly dis appear  if this thing comes to pass
this thing could not happen  if  the morons  hadn't elected  him
NOW  is the time to start  our boycott of all obama supporters
fire  them  if they work for you
quit your job if you work for them  or steal  from  work
evict  them if they rent from  you
trash the place and move  if  you rent from them

[jager]

  I'm with Patrick Henry on this subject. I didn't plan on living forever anyway (there's a better place to go). Our kids are grown and gone. My Wife says she's not planning on turning in her guns either, so I guess we'll go together (how's that for a "life partner?").  At least our Grandson will remember where we stood when whoever knocks on the door to violate our 2nd and 4th Ammendment rights are told "No way Hose". 
   By-the-way, I did create a "paper trail" that I actually donated all my guns to the most liberal neighbor on the block .

[Explorer1]

I will never give up any of my guns. If they pass a law tomorow banning say semi's and order confiscation, I will refuse to comply because that order is in violation of the constitution.

Right there with ya. But chances are be ready to use it because they arnt going to give u a chance to take it to the supream court.

I understand my stance may cause a conflict. My Rights under the constitution can only be taken from me by God, not politicians nor any man.

Life without freedom is a living death. Why prolong it.

+1

Quantity or quality?  I chose freedom.

[PeculiarSatyr]

That is all.